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I am curious, in CW's MIDI Filter, there appear to be 3 connector widgets.

One is the input, which I go to after summing 2 controller keyboards to the CW Merger. Then there is another connector in the upper right corner, which I use for the output.

What is the purpose for the connector in the lower right corner?

MFil is the filtered output, MInv is the inverted ouptut, which basically means all not filtered signals. KInd of double negation

wolf wrote:KInd of double negation

Yes and no. Or no and yes. Or no and no.

Second thoughts, I'll leave all the thinkin' to wolf from now on.

Another Scope mystery revealed.

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Damn You Guys Are Fast,
So the lower left connector is basically the unaffected output then.

Thanks, I think that is what I need to know, as there are some devices that I don't want filtered.

I am redoing my B2003 config to use 2 controllers like a real B3 did. Each manual had 9 drawbars. I have been splitting the 9 faders of one KS88 between both drawbar sections of the B2003. A suitable trade-off. My new config will emulate the real Hammond w/ 18 drawbars total, using the upper KS88 as the upper manual of the Hammond, and the lower KS88, as the lower manual. I have been doing lots of tweaks w/ my rig lately as my quest for perfection continues. I can honestly say that the B2003 sounds exactly like the real Hammond, and responds exactly like a real one, but with many more notes. MCCY's Spring Reverb has accurately modelled a real hardware unit found in the Leslie 122 model, but with an enormous ammount of added control. It comes w/ an insert slot for an additional effect. I have inserted DAS's RMX160A there to get a great effect of playing in a large hall, or wide stage too. The Motion-Sound Pro3t is what really makes it happen though. It's tubes and servo-motor accurately model a Leslie, and the 800Hz crossover of the horn is spot on. Years ago I would use different tubes and overdrive amounts, but they were set, and unable to change live, unless I wanted to crawl around in between songs. With the B2003, and other devices such as Tube Pre's, and FAT-S's, I can have every one of my favorite players sounds stored in presets. Playing the old style blues sounds lately that Janis Joplin used, I found a need to use more drawbars, and this has inspired me to really tweak the B2003 to perfection. Even the percussion, vibrato, key click, and leakage CC's are accessible. This is now many Hammonds.


Thanks For The Tip Brotha' Man Wolf, I Shall Use This To Help In My Complex MIDI Hell I've Created. But I Couldn't Be Happier.

P.S. I anxiously await the Wolf 32, My DAWg's are hunters, but Wolves are pack hunters, I can't wait.

So the lower left connector is basically the unaffected output then.

nope, it outputs everything which comes in .. beside the filtered ones.

Or to say it better all those that have been blocked by the filter come out from here.....the filtered are unfiltered and the unfiltered are filtered...hence the "inv" definition. (If I remember well...)

Now I Understand What This Can Really Do 4 Me,

My 2 x KS88's can be used more effectively. I won't use the merger anymore.

I have 2 MIDI A Sources, one from the AES card, and another from the ADAT card. Each can have it's own filter, and destinations.

I have been using 50% of the Filters capabilities. Now I will use 2 filters and use them 100% each.

This also will help me re define my placement of Wolf's panic buttons, which BTW are a live players dream. The auto selection fixes stuck notes effectively. I get these form changing presets while still holding down notes in Giga sometimes. Us poor live players must think on multiple levels every second. But I would rather keep the money saved by using no sound or lighting crew. Besides, when there are killer babes wondering around they always miss their cues.


Thanks Again Guys.

Just FYI,
I have discovered something that this filter does also.

I literally hate active sensing. Since most of the developers of controllers seem to think that AS is needed, they never include an on/off switch to stop it's flow to our other hardware or software choices. So CW's MIDI Filter seemed viable, and greatly appreciated.

However, I recently discovered my MIDI LED's on my hardware effects were always showing activity when their respective channels were not sending messages. I figured Bidule was the culprit, so I added a MIDI monitor in it's window to investigate, and found that the active sensing was still being passed through to my hardware effects from the CW MIDI destination modules.

It seems as though the CW MIDI Filter's allowing the messages through still. It does filter them from showing up in CW's MIDI monitor. This is really no problem, but I am always experiencing some " MIDI crap " that I do not need to have clogging up my devices. My ancient but warrior status Oberheim EDP has no need for all of these extra messages creeping through. They serve no purpose therefore I will rid myself of these pests once and for all.

A custom MIDI 2U rack was astronomically high, and not really needed, but the alternative was a small device, programmable via software, that will have 2 in, and 2 out for filtering 32 different choices. Each controller will be muted prior to entering the MIDI in's of my cards pigtails, and therefore stopping that useless AS crap before it hits the 2 MIDI A Source modules.

This is a great little helper in making my hardware / software rig more efficient.

I have no need for motorized faders, I am quite capable of pushing the sliders where they are needed. So this AS crap will forever be gone from my Scope / Giga DAWg's.


Thanks Janni For Your Help In This Endeavor.