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Tube-Tape emulator device !
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:36 am
by musurgio
Hi,
This is my first SDK device and I feel very proud of !!
First of all the sound is something I was looking for on any device while it tries to emulate the sound characteristics of tape compression and tube enhancement.
The graphics is really awful looking and i am sure someone more qualified in graphics designing could make this look really nice as it sounds (What I believe...)
Many thanks to mShroomz who has helped me in understand some basics with sdk, this is great guy !
Please feel free to try this , it has two versions one that loads on dsp 3 of card 0 and one on dsp 4 on card 0 again.
This loads on one dsp so it has no phase problems.
This was needed cause there are many filters compressors limiters and other devices used so they must load on same dsp to preserve the phase relationship of all these.
If someone wants to make good graphics please let me know and I will send the sdk project.
Please let me know as what you think about its sound !
HERE IS MY STEREO VERSION OF THE PLUGIN WITH MORE CONTROLS !!
THIS IS VERY VERY USEFUL SO I WOULD LIKE YOUR COMMENTS HERE !
THIS LOADS ON SAME DSP BUT NOT DSP OR CARD ORIENTED SO IT CAN LOAD ON ANY SCOPE CARD AS MANY TIMES AS IT CAN...
ENJOY
Regards,
Dimitrios
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:42 am
by cannonball
hi
ops i just req a things like this
thanks so much
i would like to buy a fatso but before i'll try your device
ciao e grazie
tubetaper
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:45 am
by musurgio
I would like you to try it first and tell me how it sounds...

Regards,
Dimitrios
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:44 am
by voidar
It seems to have some interesting character, but I get a DSP error when loading more than one. I want to try it in stereo.
tubetaper
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:15 am
by musurgio
Hi,
I am glad you like it...
Thats why I posted two versions for stereo use until I make a stereo device...
Load the one that says 03 and then the one that says 04.
They will load on different dsps on same card.
Regards,
Dimitrios
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:55 am
by cannonball
hi
just tried 10 minutes in
a bad recording vocal a
seems give a good round sound to the track
works in xtc too
Ale
tubetape
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:05 am
by musurgio
Great,
Thats what I was about to make.
A device that could give a sort of "round" sound with compression effect to mimic somehow the tape/tube charcteristics...
Didn't know it works in xtc !!
Regards,
Dimitrios
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:02 pm
by wolf
Generally it is not a good idea to force a module to load on a specific dsp/board.
Disregarding the dsp optimisation thingie scope itself does, imagine several developers create such devices and the user wants to add two or more different of these devices and they're forced to work on the same dsp .. can't work.
I'd suggest to everyone here using this method to use it very carefully. Especially since there is a much more elegant solution available :
Enter "yes" into the "OnSameDSP" parameter of the module attributes and let scope take care about dsp allocation.
cheers
Wolfgang
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:18 pm
by wolf
probably I forgot to mention .. this was just a technical remark, no criticism about the device itself

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:59 pm
by Shroomz~>
Congratulations on your first Scope device
btw... you cannot achieve phase coherence if you put L & R channels on separate dsps!!
keep it up!!
regards,
Shroomz
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:07 pm
by wolf
Shroomz wrote:btw... you cannot achieve phase coherence if you put L & R channels on separate dsps!!
I didn't talk about spreading modules over several dsps, Shroomz. Please reread my comment carefully.
keep it both up !
.. but again, don't force devices to work on specific dsps & use my tip instead.
Wolfgang
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:43 am
by husker
i think he was not talking about musurgio's reference to using 2 devices for stereo...not your comments
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:00 am
by wolf
ups, indeed it was me who didn't read carefully
was too early in the morning .. sorry

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:25 am
by Shroomz~>
Hi Wolf, for my part, I've been using the 'on same dsp' setting toggled to yes all along (since xmas). Some devices that sharc or I have made which use less than 1dsp have only that setting, whereas with devices which span accross several dsps, I've followed the instructions in the manual & used the 'on same dsp' setting in conjunction with the BoardID & DSPid settings. I wouldn't like to think that the 12 channel mixer we made would be spread relatively randomly accross 3 boards worth of dsps.
The manual does say that the 'exemplary' Scope device will combine 'DSPid' & 'on same dsp' settings, so maybe I've been a bit premature in using them.
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:03 am
by spacef
Shroomz wrote:I wouldn't like to think that the 12 channel mixer we made would be spread relatively randomly accross 3 boards worth of dsps.
not necessarilly: about spreading, a lot first depends on how you build your devices. All my mixers, even old one with 32 channel loads compactly on dsps that are next to each other. There can be no spreading without any assignment of board/dsp. With OnSame dsp, it is the same, but just can obviously take more dsp than necessary.
Also, if msurgio "load on dsp 4" device do work on a luna, one can wonder what was that setting added for... if it does not load on a luna, well, same question.
In two words, good luck...
ps: i wonder which manual you are talking about...? sdk?
dsp allocation
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:03 am
by musurgio
Wolf and Spacef thanks for your insight on this dsp matters.
I don't claim to know anything and I am just experimenting.
I am very glad that you respond with your precious information about the dsp thing and yes you have right about luna (did not think !) and I will use the load on same dsp only.
One question here , if you stereo device cannot load only on one dsp and needs a second what do you do to preserve phase relationship ?
I know that each module inside a device can be indivindually also dsp allocated ,would you use that ?
Regards and thank you.
Dimitrios
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:57 am
by spacef

it depends on the device. Trial and errors is my recommendation
Mehdi
ps: and no, i would not use dsp and board pre-assignments.
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:49 pm
by dawman
I like reading threads that have top SDK guys chatting togetrher.
Dimitrious, you must have done something right to gather such high caliber guys in one thread.
JV
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:47 am
by voidar
This is awesome on the 2bus!!
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:24 am
by voidar
But settings won't save so it's pretty useless