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Hi,
please bare with me, need to move my cards- can you give me a good setup specs for this:

- good PCI throughput(16MV's if possible)
- strong but not too expensive processor
- one Raptor drive(80Gb) and one big drive (200 Gb)
- plextor Cd/Dvd burner/drive
- 2Gb memory
- passive video card that I can connect to 2 monitors for more workspace
- good case/power supply

i have 1 pulsar and one scope pro, and maybe i would need 3 pci slots in future

Thx Gary, U the man

just go intel.
get the fastest core2 processor you can afford, 6400, 6600, whatever.
intel dg965ry or dp965lt motherboard.
evga geforce pci express graphics card at least 256mb, under $75(any of them)
2x wd hard drive
corsair twinx2056 ddr2 667 or 800
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=61050

this should be cheap(relatively) and effective.

Hey your givin' away all of my secret weapons.

Jokin' aside, that combo is what I use 24/7 w/o a hiccup. It runs so good that my next upgrade will be from P4 to the Core 2 Duo. Eventually all 3 x DAW's will be run off of these suggestions. They are proven and battleworthy.

But if you go w/ AMD we will also thank you 4 keeping Intel cheap. They are responsible for Intels newest surge of logic. I would love to see them see saw for another decade, as we seem to benfit from it's competition.


Jump In 4 The Big Win.


JV

Thx Gary,

here's one more question for everyone-

i heard Plextor made special cd burner for continous 1x speed, burning of CD audio masters.
Does anybody know what model that is, or has more info about that?

Thx Guys

MikeRaphone wrote: i heard Plextor made special cd burner for continous 1x speed, burning of CD audio masters.

interesting! yes... i also like to know.
thanks

That is in the software package that's available for all of their models w/ 8MB buffers that reside internally. I could be wrong though. I now have to use the external model, as 4U racks loaded w/ 15 DSP cards will not allow them to be loaded internally. It was a noble sacrifice.

garyb wrote:just go intel.
get the fastest core2 processor you can afford, 6400, 6600, whatever.
intel dg965ry or dp965lt motherboard.
evga geforce pci express graphics card at least 256mb, under $75(any of them)
2x wd hard drive
corsair twinx2056 ddr2 667 or 800
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=61050

this should be cheap(relatively) and effective.

Hi garyb

I am currently building a new PC, I will follow your recomendation : DP965LT.

But I am not sure about the DDRAM : do you use Corsair twinx2056 ddr2 800
with your DP965LT Mother board ? I have read in some website that there could be a problem with this RAM due to the 1,8 V requirement.

Thanks for your feedback

Go with OCZ Gold if you can, and don't be cheap on the CPU. Get the E6600, you will see a big improvement over the E6400 as it's 2MB shared L2 cache makes it the slowest of the E series. I use an E6700, and the E6600 is just as fast, so I probably spent more than I needed to. So I continue to live and learn.
Gary has built 2 of my 3 Scope DAW's that run w/o incident 24/7.

He Breeds Hunting DAWg's,

nunozzy wrote: But I am sure about the DDRAM : do you use Corsair twinx2056 ddr2 800
with your DP965LT Mother board ? I have read in some website that there could be a problem with this RAM due to the 1,8 V requirement.

Thaks for your feedback

my error, i haven't used the 2056 set(2x1024 sticks). i've used the 1024(2x 512 sticks).

scope4live wrote:Go with OCZ Gold if you can, and don't be cheap on the CPU. Get the E6600, you will see a big improvement over the E6400 as it's 2MB shared L2 cache makes it the slowest of the E series. I use an E6700, and the E6600 is just as fast, so I probably spent more than I needed to. So I continue to live and learn.
Gary has built 2 of my 3 Scope DAW's that run w/o incident 24/7.

He Breeds Hunting DAWg's,

I only found some OCZ PC 4200 that are working at 1,8 V : does this mean that I can't buy PC5300 or PC6400 ?

In the OCZ website, there no DDRAM proposed higher than PC4200 : http://www.ocztechnology.com/pn/OCZ25331024V.html

To be honest, I am little bit lost in finding memory for this mobo.

If some planetz user can provide me with some exact reference, this will help me !

thanks

scope4live wrote: Get the E6600, you will see a big improvement over the E6400 as it's 2MB shared L2 cache makes it the slowest of the E series.

recently some E6x2x cpus appeared on the horizon that also have 2mb level2 cache but run a bit slower than 2400 mhz (2133mhz for the 6420 and 1866mhz fore the 6320). maybe the way to go if budget is tight...^

-greetings, markus-

These are the DDRAM I have found with 1,8 v

OCZ: PC 4200
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/m ... series-eol

G.SKILL: PC5400
http://www.materiel.net/ctl/PC_de_burea ... 00_LA.html

Kingston : PC6400
http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KVR800D2N5K2_2G.pdf

Crucial : PC4200
http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs ... BAA5CA7304

Only Kingston proposed a PC6400 DDRAM for 1,8 volt

Now a question

Is it better to buy

G.skill: PC2-5400 (DDR2-667) 4-4-4-12 Dual Channel =>89 €
Kingston: PC2-6400 CL5 - KVR800D2N5K2/2G => 124 €
A Data PC2 6400 CL5 : 115 €
Crucial PC2 6400 CL5 : 110 €
What would be your choice ?

indeed, the dp965lt is a little picky. since i usually get 512k sticks, i haven't had an issue. anyway, corsair recommends this one for 2x 1024: VS2GBKIT667D2

as to the other brands, i'd choose crucial or ocz.. the corsair model i gave you is pc5400.....

i have helped building a PC for a friend and evrything is smoothly on a DP965LT board (2 soniccore boards) with a SUPER TALENT dual kit (2 GB / 800 mhz speed) . This kind of "extreme" RAM can be easiliy overclocked, but as for the intel board ... it just can change timings. Very stable here ! Hope it helps....

Jo

I have the following set up:

P4 3.0 Northwood
ASUS P4P800 SE MoBo (865 PE Chipset)
RAM: DDR 400 (PC 3200) 4 x 512 MB Kingston
HDD 2 x 80 GIG SATA
Graphic Card: NVIDIA 128 MB
Elektra, Pulsar XTC and Pulsar 1


I am thinking of changing to a set up that would be very stable to your recommendations. I would most likely use the current system for gaming or similar.I have 3 Scope cards: Elektra, Pulsar XTC and Pulsar 1. Many thanks in advance for your help.

DejanDanilo

garyb wrote:indeed, the dp965lt is a little picky. since i usually get 512k sticks, i haven't had an issue. anyway, corsair recommends this one for 2x 1024: VS2GBKIT667D2

as to the other brands, i'd choose crucial or ocz.. the corsair model i gave you is pc5400.....

What a shame, I will have to give up this motherboard, I want a minimum of 4GB or ram for my editing.

There will sure be some Intel surprises in short, I guess, because of the imminent upcoming of bigger CPUs, so perhaps we are lucky enough to get a newer, more flexible ram approach in the near future, still with DDR2.

the dp965lt supports 8gb ram.....so does the dg965ry.
do you want maximum speed or stability?

Hi

New inetl chipset is said to have a better memory controler,.
there is also an isssue with previous generation MB as they are not compatible with new generation CPU (VRM 11 while new gen need VRM 12)

Personnaly I use a supermicro PDSBE with 4Gb of CORSAIR RAM (4*1024) which leave 3 Gb for windows XP
New supermicro C2SBE might be the way to go for 4PCI slots

Cheers

Michel

stardust wrote:What you mean ? new chipsets ?

Not sure realy, but the market is getting crazy as you can see... there is a BIG revolution comming up. I think we are in such a big change as when the first pentium came out.

garyb wrote:the dp965lt supports 8gb ram.....so does the dg965ry.
do you want maximum speed or stability?

I for sure am ready to give up some speed for more stability… This is something everybody that has used a PC for more than 5 years will want! For sure!

But, how can it handle 8GB of ram if for it to work properly, due to its 1.8 volts, you are forced to add 512 modules? In that case, having 4 slots, you have a maximum of 2GB, but not 8. If the board has problems handling sticks of 1GB because of poor electricity power supply in these ram slots, how would it handle 2GB sticks? That’s what I understood, perhaps I’m wrong.