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help - suffering lame "no inspiration" infection

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:19 pm
by AudioIrony
Ok - haven't posted for a while.
There's a good reason - everything I have tried in the last few months has been total poo.

This is something that I would really like to get "working" - but as it stands . . it's just total crap and has a visible smell. Green and foggy...

I think some strong vocal ideas would lift it . . . but drawing a complete blanc on that front as well . . .

Eurobitch
Cantonese cider ant farm
Tibia

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:42 pm
by braincell
This is great. Sounds like Ministry or NIN. I know some people hate them. Vocals with a lot of distortion. I can hear it so clearly in my head. The guitar grabs me.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:42 pm
by Lima
Why not to add a female voice singing the lyrics? I imagine a clean voice. I would try to add some samples taken from classical choirs (something like russian choirs) as backing vocals.

btw I like it very much! :-)

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:19 am
by bassdude
New bass arriving soon. We'll have a jam and get creative juices flowing :D

I like this Brett, Sounds real good mate! Great guitar.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:47 am
by wayne
Only thing wrong with you B is you think there's something wrong with you :)

WhatbassyougettinStu?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:14 am
by Counterparts
That's ace, not smelly at all (or green) :-)

Needs a clean lead sound (melody), either vocals or geetar would work I reckon.

What did you use to get the guitar sound btw?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:34 am
by wayne
Looks like you can move ahead with the nadir glue, cobber :)

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:43 am
by astroman
...it's not a guitar wall - that's a f*ing bulldozer moving right into my direction... :o
some great transitions there, maybe a small edge of 'yet undecided' here and there, but I'm also convinced that a 'theme' would make it a great track.
Anything from a poem, speach, rap, melodic tune could work - I'm with Royston than clean would be the most interesting contrast to the hammering sound (and also curious about the guitar fx...)
also great that you left some dynamic space... it's a very good base :D

cheers, Tom

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:57 am
by bassdude
Wayne,
I am so lucky. I sold my stingray 5 a couple of years ago along with a Mesa cab and ADA and amp etc etc (also the majority of my studio gear as well) to be with my wife for special reasons. I was ok with being a bassless bassdude! Then my wife over the last 6 months started asking me What IF questions and then on our wedding day 3 weeks ago she gives me a gift certificate for a Yamaha TRB1005 fretless (I have always wanted a 5 string fretless). She totally blew me away. Gotta wait 7 more weeks before the bass arrives though. I can't wait to start teaching my little 18 mnth old son how to play! :D

BTW, I read about your trips/gigs with great interest mate. Keep up the posts ok!


Whoops Sorry Brett! Back OT. 7 weeks and we'll have a jam :D

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:08 am
by astroman
amazing, Stuart - congrats to the luckylucky couple ...trio :)

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:37 pm
by AudioIrony
Thanks for all the positive comments. Gives me the kick I needed to go further with it.
For those wanting to know about the guitars (fx).
All tracks are heavily effected (post) in one way or another - not least of all extra digital-type distortion with loads of compression.
I didn't use GAM at all this time - I used Apple's Garage Band to record the guitars initially - using their Amp simulations.
I used the Gretsch for the main guitar stabs and my home made guitar for the sustained riff.
Both guitars tuned using "drop D"
Sustained riff was created using an octaver-like effect by doubling with an extremely distorted bass VSTi (4Front Bass module).
Once I got the tracks into Cubase - I just played with Quadrafuzz , heavy compression and gating.
That's really it - the rest was EQ and reverb / delay - nothing out of the ordinary.
In truth I was just trying to emulate "that" type of distortion effect heard on any NIN CD. Not something I could ever come close to in a live setting.
Regards

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:52 pm
by hifiboom
wayne wrote:Only thing wrong with you B is you think there's something wrong with you :)

WhatbassyougettinStu?
agreed,

this sounds pretty good.... :D

You may just need a little distance to sound/music in general.
there`s some point, if you run over it. Everything sucks... no matter if good or bad...
Do something completly other than music making for some time...
do a bungee jump or something like that.... :lol:
and have a break for a period of time...

:wink:
btw, do you mix in cubase or scope...?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:10 pm
by AudioIrony
hifiboom wrote:
wayne wrote:Only thing wrong with you B is you think there's something wrong with you :)

WhatbassyougettinStu?
agreed,

this sounds pretty good.... :D

You may just need a little distance to sound/music in general.
there`s some point, if you run over it. Everything sucks... no matter if good or bad...
Do something completly other than music making for some time...
do a bungee jump or something like that.... :lol:
and have a break for a period of time...

:wink:
btw, do you mix in cubase or scope...?
Good advice from both - wallowing in destructive moods is pretty pointless.

I've been working more in Cubase now than in Scope - being on a Mac kinda leads me in that workflow these days.
I have really only been using Scope for the last year for recording guitars and odds and ends.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:48 pm
by wayne
bassdude wrote: she gives me a gift certificate for a Yamaha TRB1005 fretless
That's one helluva woman :)

Image

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:54 pm
by hubird
(the mix) nothing wrong with it even, it's streight laid out.
I definitely would give the drums a better sound, the snare is tame this way.
Cut the stereo maker, make it dry-front with a very little small romm verb, give it pressure without making it necessaryly much louder.
If less loud yet present wanted, then add some Attacker, works wonderfull :-)

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:27 pm
by AudioIrony
wayne wrote:
bassdude wrote: she gives me a gift certificate for a Yamaha TRB1005 fretless
That's one helluva woman :)

Image
Helluva bass - bet you won't sleep well for 7 weeks !!!!

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:34 pm
by AudioIrony
hubird wrote:(the mix) nothing wrong with it even, it's streight laid out.
I definitely would give the drums a better sound, the snare is tame this way.
Cut the stereo maker, make it dry-front with a very little small romm verb, give it pressure without making it necessaryly much louder.
If less loud yet present wanted, then add some Attacker, works wonderfull :-)
Ahhh yes - the drums . . .hmm
I'm going to have to bounce the snare and treat it that way - using BFD demo - no separate outs. Or I might just replace the main hits with another snare sound.

BTW do you mean right the way through - including loops or just when the large guitars (and BFD) come in?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:24 pm
by bassdude
AudioIrony wrote:
wayne wrote:
That's one helluva woman :)

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Helluva bass - bet you won't sleep well for 7 weeks !!!!

Yep and No Chance!!

And that pic is the exact one I'm getting tranlucent black.

actually brett I would like to catch up with you sometime to have a look at how you use the BFD demo?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:23 am
by AudioIrony
Sure thing Stuart - we will have to make a day and time.
PM me

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:33 am
by bassdude
Will do.

Oh and thanks Astro for the congrats. :)