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hi all,

here is mail we received from djmicron about the way to remove protection module in some of official and non official creamware devices.
he has send mail to all creamware dev who have plugins able to be open.

thanks to him to have talk about this here :

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21024

Hello,
i don't know the true name, but the planetz user that has informed me
is shroomz.
I know he is a graphic designer and he has done the gui of my cat modules.
He is involved with mccyrano in developing some new device, so i think
that mccyrano is 99% the informer and mccyrano is the only one sdk
developer that was frightened by my planetz post about the bug and he
have never asked me how the bug works, because he know how and all its
devices are 100% protected.....
Regards

Salvatore

djmicron and das are alone to talk about this conspiracy of silence we can find here,and i don't know and understand why.
this forum is great,but as in a bad fruit, there are worms which it would be necessary to cut down because they have hack protection module and use our and some plugins from other dev illegaly !

eric

Oh my G*D Eric, what are you doing now in this forum?
You are just repeating and quoting the same stuff as mentioned in the thread you point to??!!
Why don't you let Olive do the communication, you are just not able to handle it, and you know that.
Let's leave this thread for what it is guys

At what or who are you trying to target here, Eric?

go ahead dude !
No need to blame others ....

what did you expect ?

astroman wrote:

well, I didn't want to participate here, but since the cat's out of bag anyway...

this hacking blurb is complete bullsh*t - there is no hacking involved at all, not even an SDK.
in SFP(!) just go to the ************* censured by me of course ! it will open with a graphic representation of the devices internals on a certain level (there may be more... in SDk...)
(usually it shows only an empty screen, as most devices have the accessible level protected, but DAS obviously wasn't aware of it...)
it doesn't tell anything about alorithms, but may list a few basic building blocks used (could be funny if someone says '...I didn't use this or that...' and then it shows up there) - and it may show one or the other 'demo protection module', which is usually a primitive timer/counter plus decision.

************* censured by me of course ! and the device doesn't beep or timeout anymore.
You can hardly call that 'hacking' and it isn't even in legal context, not even if the developer had different intentions...
if the device is provided 'as is' then it's the sole responsibility of the developer to have taken any precautions to prevent unintended use, if 'use' is restricted to the system's regular operation, which opening a file unquestionably is.
The 'user' can in no way be assumed to 'think' for another person - that IS a legal matter of fact and I'm absolutely sure to have read sentences with exactly that reasioning.

cheers, Tom

astroman explain you how to remove protection module from some official and non official cw devices,he pm us to inform us that he has our plugins without protection module,he says that he doesn't use them ,and we have to believe this member who is able to write this hacking procedure in a public forum ? you spammed all our topic like this last about fairlight http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21607 ,you insult me as parano,as liar,and i / we should shut our mouth ? how many post ,in every forum here have you writen lots of shit on das( and digitalaudiosoft,sonolive are not pseudo, mr astroman !) ? like" what's wrong with rmx " or "tha'ts true with"..or "polteq is only a peq4"...?
you have got your funny time,but,it's finish for me to accept this again !! (2 month of peace was so long to begin again...?)
i'm not as strong as you hubird,astroman and friends...with all your thousand post in forum discussion...but,you are wrong from the begining !

eric

digitalaudiosoft wrote: astroman explain you how to remove protection module from some official and non official cw devices,he pm us to inform us that he has our plugins without protection module,he says that he doesn't use them ,and we have to believe this member who is able to write this hacking procedure in a public forum ? ...

obviously it was not so difficult to 'believe' this member for 3 months, as that personal note was sent on 1st of january - and it was a rather friendly note, if I may say...

It's in no way tolerable that you fool people who have less technical knowledge
1.) by calling something hacking that simply doesn't qualify as such - you just left the door open when leaving the house (so to say...)
2.) you suppose bad intentions at some free SDK users (stealing code) for which you don't have the slightest proof

that is the only reason why I wrote about the feature
you could have said 'sorry, I didn't really think about this' - and I would have removed the post immediately

instead you start to include me in your accusations and suppose that I removed the module to actually 'use' the plugin without beeps or whatever.

this is not only an offence regarding the claim of piracy - it's an even deeper offence to suggest that someone (me in that case) would be that stupid to make a private and a public note about it.
pardon me, but I have licence keys for 5 different reverbs (4 of which are considered 'better' than yours) plus my outboard gear - for what reason should I add another one ?
The rest of your plugins didn't even make it to demo - I simply don't need them (a fact which I've posted long ago)

I'm terribly sorry Eric, that I deleted my entries in those RMX threads...
otherwise I'd have a flawless sequence of cases where you started to insult me.
The difference is that I don't make a drama of it.

You ARE paranoid and suffer from self-overestimation to an almost pathologic degree (I am not a Doctor...) and you don't even accept purely fact based critics.
You still haven't realized that critics (and in particular self-critics) is an important factor for getting better - that's why you'll never get beyond mediocre results. Not my fault and not my problem either.

I've changed my mind and will not unleash hell with a flood of open devices spread by someone who heard it through the grapewine - it wouldn't hurt your meager sales anyway and you don't deserve such attention.

my deepest regrets, Tom

you are right astroman.here is your wish to hear some apologize from me :

excuse me to have been pirated

i will listen the voice of my compatriote bill3107 :

i will never post again on this topic.pm are made for.

peace and love for everybody.

friendly post isn't it ?

bye,have a good day.

eric

Eric, you really don't want to ease up and stop digging your own hole, don't you? I don't blame you, truly. I am sorry that you keep on your self-destruction.

I hope you'll keep your word and get out of this forum where you bring nothing but conflict and discord. It could be seen as amazing that you haven't been banned a while ago, with all the poison that you've spewed around here.

FREE THIS FORUM FROM YOUR POISONOUS BREATH!!! please...? Its annoying man, you show up here and use this forum as a dumping ground for your emotional garbage and unproven pirating accusations.

YOU'RE PATHETIC, TO SAY THE LEAST. Leave us alone and go make a therapy man, it's urgent!

All the best!

Eliam out