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Physically Modelled Category - Neglected?
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:37 am
by Scotty
Apart from the 6 string physical model are there any 3rd party pm synths out there for our platform?
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:36 am
by astroman
as mentioned countless times
Python Pro (available by Zarg) is pretty 'physical' in it's tone processing.
the trigger source is a 2op FM (an effective way to have a wide range of initial sounds) inducing a resonance 'body'.
it's totally underestimated because it's not a readymade, out-of-the-box rewarding thing.
one needs to be aware of the strategy behind it (a peek at the manual is obligatory) or otherwise the controls are simply messed with what one's used to from virtual analog stuff.
cheers, Tom
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:25 am
by Scotty
Ok I'll check it out. I have a massive PM libary for the Oasy PCI and was wondering if there is strong support for this type of synthesis on this platforn.
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:02 am
by johnbowen
Scotty,
The reason you don't see those PM algorithms on this platform as you have with the OASYS PCI is that we don't have the license to use the physical modeling algorithms that Korg paid for (there was an extensive court case involving years of lawyer meetings, etc, with Yamaha/Stanford).
As for the Six String algorithm, this was licensed to CW by the developer (from IRCAM I think?), and no 3rd parties have access to it either.
The only resource we have in the Scope library is to use delay lines or comb/tube filters to give something vaguely similar, though much, much simpler...and things like tuning are a huge problem, as you may know!
regards,
John b.
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:51 am
by Scotty
Thanks John. As you are aware your friend Harm Visser is probably one of the leading expert in this field. Harm gave me his Oasys Library in exchange for some sound design work.
There have been quite a few pm synths released using synthedit for the pc and the developers are not large business types. Are there any pm alogorithms that are not patented or are these developers using the techniques you descibed (ray 73, dimiflute etc)
I have a request for demos of your creamware synths and I am looking forward to giving them a go.
scharris@interhop.net