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A simple question really, but taking into account all the features & 'pros & cons' of the available delay devices, what would you say is Scope's best delay?

If you're talking stock, then would say Pattern Delay. If you're talking third party then i would say Space F's Echo35.

I like the Ganja Dub Delay for guitar-solo shit.

Seeings' How I Use 7 Delay Units, One Of Which Is Hardware, I Reckon I Should Chime In.
Stardust is on the money in the different uses catagorey.
I shall attempt to explain why I use so many. All persomal tastes of course.

I love reverse reverbs, and backward looped delays, so I am overboard with this stuff. Celmos Tape Sim is excellant for that vintage analog tape trail off at the end of backward loops, which I use the Line 6 Echo Pro to play live licks in reverse.
SpaceF's delays are just unique in their own right, but I use the Echo35's SynFX, and get it to sound like the Ursa Major Space Station, which was my old pad delay in the day, even though it is a reverb. It has a large amount of taps which go from sounding like a hall to a flanger. It was on most synth tracks that required ambience back in the day. I can go from a tight and fat sounding chorus / flanger, to a more spread out millesecond multitap with the touch of my foot. Since it ( FC7 ) is worthless as a swell pedal, It has acquired less precise duties.
I recently heard Steffen's modular tape sim and use that on a per patch basis with other modular synth patches.
The SSB delay is great for modulating drum tracks.
I use the SFP Lexicon PCM41 delay for tracking mono synth solos.
Then there is the SFP Lexicon Prime Time for that 12 bit / 8 bit lo-fi thing which is amazimgly accurate. Even my Line 6 Echo Pro sounds digital next to that.


Lost In The '70's,

Yeah, Echo is the flagship.

I'm gonna open a new thread about the other delays tho - it seems that some are giving inaccurate delay times as pointed out by roy thinnes here

They sound great, but this is a problem.

Echo made in SpaceF.
http://www.spacef-devices.com/



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that is not a Delay
that is Madness !

still ashamed for the bargain I once payed for that gem

cheers, Tom
ps anyone into Dub would be a complete fool to miss this...
anyone else either...

Or this



Very very good delay

Thanks for all the input.

Looks like there's no competition on Scope for the monster delay, Echo3.5.

That is GaryB's new drummer. Since he just joined the band it will take him a few years more to catch up with the guys as they all have ankle length hair.

OT, but Gary's hair is real (I guess ), but this guy's hair is a wig if you ask me...

Shroomz wrote:A simple question really, but taking into account all the features & 'pros & cons' of the available delay devices, what would you say is Scope's best delay?

I'll tell you next week...

Now that's what you call a long delay !!

hehe

I still remember using an old reel-to-reel, looping the tape all 'round the studio we were in, using mic stands and table legs to route the tape...we ended up with something like an 8-10 second delay using that technique (this was some time ago now mind...)

That was quite a long delay; about fourty feet long!

We've got an old reel2reel here. I might try that ;¬,

Counterparts wrote:

Shroomz wrote:A simple question really, but taking into account all the features & 'pros & cons' of the available delay devices, what would you say is Scope's best delay?

I'll tell you next week...

Hhahaha,
Nice one Counterparts, this is what I call English Humor!

The reel to reel. I haven't seen or heard that one in years!! A renoun FOH guy from Illinois use to use the Roland Space Echo and a Teac to great effect live. Quite the showman, with a very controllable technique.

I have used 2, 3 and 4 reel to reel decks to make Frippertronics stype 'delays', which end up as huge soundscapes. I'd use a good quality reel deck at each end, and run the tape from one to the other (not a loop - it is spooling up on the end deck); with a few of the speaker reel decks in between, which play back via their own mini amps and speakers (these are the old style home reel decks).

The first and last decks would be amped via a normal monitor setup, giving a room sound with 5 sources; from hi- to lo-fi; and at different spatial locations.
The whole lot could be miked up using stereo mics.

Although I used to do it for fun as a guitar in one end sounds very weird at the end (and the middle!). Usually created and listened to when lying on the floor as I recall! (':o')

Problems were getting tape tension, old home decks chewing up tape, general madness. The quality decks were an Akai 4000DS (still have) and a Tandberg something or other.

I have the Celmo vintage delays; this multi reel deck set up is impossible to replicate I think, as the gap between the decks would be a few feet. Do-able though, I will have a go next time.

This is much more lo fi and random than can be got with Jam Man or Boss long time delay / loopers, although that is sort of in the right area.

Are there any CW devices that can emulate these very long gap delays, tape head effects, etc?

Akai make a hardware Tape Rush delay with movable heads; if I had a load of spare money (or worked in a shop!) I could link several of these together with a 'delay' (wet only) inbetween.

BTW this was in 1978...

Geoff

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Excellent!!!