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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: astroman on 2006-08-16 11:40 ]</font>

tom,

i have change only the design on the rmx160a.the sound is the same of the first rmx160 of course.

maybe the zip is corrupted,you should downloaded it again or verify your system.

the new rmx160a has been downloaded 248X (and already sold) and you are the first who have a problem.

ev

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: digitalaudiosoft on 2006-08-03 11:26 ]</font>

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: astroman on 2006-08-16 11:41 ]</font>

tom,

do and think what you want...

what's the problem or what's your problem ?

in your first post you have "strange sound" and in the second you are talking about something else !
it's like for the brainworks post!
i can see that you like writing (more than 4000 posts )...my work is sound engineer not writing for a forum even if it is the best about creamware.

if you can't do good sound with our plug ,it's not a problem,it's not my problem...

you have to know something :

i'm sound engineer (and olive too),i work in the biggest french studio like guillaume tell,davout and others... and of course ,i use ssl,neve,lexicon,ams and all hardware you will never see or hear.

olive and i ,we never says that our plugins sound like hardware ,because we think thats it's impossible !

this reverb sounds very good and like for the sl9000 chanelstrip,it's very difficult to understand howto.

as you can see :

http://www.digitalaudiosoft.com/broadcast/

we have broadcasting custumers and they are very happy to find sound profesional to make THE PLUGINS they want (at very high price) ! and we are respected ! WHY ?
because this work is very hard and we have to respect lots of parameters of broadcast norme and we do it very good !

when we make plug for you and us ,we do the same because we know exactly what is better for our work on pulsar.


eric

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Shroomz on 2006-08-24 07:26 ]</font>

eric

you may could point out what makes your new devices different in comparison to the creamware "standard" plugs. except the look and feel of course. are they really built after the legends we know, soundwise? or do they just look similar.

every user here on Z thinks that your devices sound like the "original" ones. if not, it's kinda cheating in my oppinion, otherwise you have to point it out.

little hint. statements from you like the one above will definitively not help selling you much devices, as some people may find you arrogant and ignorant and jump off the deal...

don't understand me wrong, it's not my intention to bother you. Just like to keep/make things clear. I really appreciate your hard work with the sfp plugs and also the guy who made the interfaces. Everyone here loves to see scope alive, so keep going!

greez
Roman

just a few remarks:

First of all, i am not shocked at all that astro wtites this. Im not saying hes lying, hes wrong or anything else, its just the same choise of agressive tone that he had in the bx digital discussion. "no bias"? i doubt it.

second, comparing it to a Flash demo is just utterly stupid. if you want to post a bastant post like this, please do a REAL comparison.

Third, if these devices are NOT emulations of the boxes they are marketed as being emulations of, well, its obvious sometihng is wrong.


Only thing to solve this issue is for someone to A/B this to the original and post some wav files.

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: astroman on 2006-08-16 11:41 ]</font>

hum... well guys, i would say that most of us do not have the ssl, neve , AMS... stuff so only few persons can analyse a A/B comparison right ? Buuuuut, digitalaudiosound must face the comments : why don't you propose 2 files with the hardware and then the plug? I do agree that explaining how the plugs were built is interesting. Furthermore, most of us need more opinions from professionnals. I do not want to question neither digitalaudio either the 2 guys who are not fond of your products. WE NEED more info and proof that will lead to purchases. Thank you for your work and for your comprehension.

As for those who have purchase already the plugs, come on guys we need more feed back !!!!!!


Jonathan

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: astroman on 2006-08-16 11:41 ]</font>

On 2006-08-03 21:15, digitalaudiosoft wrote:
it's like for the brainworks post!
i can see that you like writing (more than 4000 posts )...my work is sound engineer not writing for a forum

Eric, you like streetfighting eh?

From PR point of view your reaction is unbelievable st*pid

On content, it's rediculous, if you concider the built-in excuses and reservations in Astroman's post.

PS. I'm not defending someone, in this case Astroman, he capable to do that by himself.
I'm just realizing you could do the same to me if I would comment negatively on your plugs.

If you're smart, you post some wav files with pure comparizing the original and the plug, or do the Ativerb test Astroman suggest.
You better stay on content mate, in your own interest that is


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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Shroomz on 2006-08-24 07:27 ]</font>

why should I ?

hi all,

Astro, ther's something sounding very strange to my ears in yours way of posting ...

at first, you posted : "DigitalAudioSoft M/S EQ doesn´t work correct... "
and now : "what's wrong with the RMX 160 demo ?"

so, our plugs are wrong and incorrect !!! and YOU are right ??? fantastic ! here's the man !!! YOU ARE RIGHT and you can tell us that we are wrong , i've never seen something like that elsewhere !

First of all, as Eric wrote above, we are absolutely conviced that it is impossible to replicate the exact sound of the original hardware, and not only for us but also for uad or else ...
the only thing we work hard to do is to approch the "philosophy" of these originals, GUI, freq and gain "setup", and the sound of course, but we have never told that you shouldnot buy the original ... replacing it by DAS softs.

We have developped these plugs and their original audio design, in order to propose scope user a new range of GUI and sound , and scope user can of cours dislike our plugs . remark : each one can have its own opinion by downloadind them in demo mode !!!
if you or others don't wanna buy them , well fine, what can we say : "YOU ARE WRONG " ??? never, we'll never do that !
but you do this,

So now can you tell me what is wrong in the RMX 160 ? have you ever tried to use it on a mix ? can we ear it ? or have you simply put a wave in the input, heard how it sounds and thought immediately : bah it doesnot sound like the hardware that i even don't know !!!

These plugs are made to be used, in mixes upon drums or special vocals, or any thing else, WE , eric and i use them every day in our respectiv studio works ...

and sometimes i choose the masterverb pro, because i think it's the best choice, sometimes i use the PTFREE96, because i know it we'll be better fot other sound !!! that the way we work, and tha also the way we have developped these devices .

I am sorry and would have like to answer more about your agressives post about MSEQ or other plugs but i have to go working,

Sorry if we work, man, but it's our reality :sound is our way to own money and grow two childs : i will right now leave home and take my place as FOH mixer in a Hall of the biggest celtic festival in the world in LORIENT - britain - France.

that's why i cannot be there on pz more but till today, i will follow this because, astro, you are very very strange §
cheers,
olive

blabla-blabla, i finally bought the reverb and will compare it side by side to the masterverbs and the STW A100/P100. That's all I can do, cause I'm definitively not in analog outboard gear, it's to expensive for a little studio like mine...

so, when i finally get my keys (RALFFFFF!!:-), i'll let you know my exp...

cheers
Roman

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: astroman on 2006-08-16 11:42 ]</font>

the panic that shows off from their post at least shows they take your comment seriously, Astro

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