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The PCIe requests for Creamware will now start rolling in I'm sure:

http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/20 ... ls-HD.html

I'm not sure, if not to say i'm sure that not
they dont even say smth about 64bit drivers...

I'm concerned about a possible adapter that could use existing PCI cards with new designs down the road. I bet that would make some of us happy. However, I have a couple of spare parts in duplicate, i.e. ,Mobo,RAM,CPU. I fear change.

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: scope4live on 2005-12-21 16:24 ]</font>

there's no advantage to the next gen...yet.

On 2005-12-22 14:03, stardust wrote:
Also RME said that neither firewire nor USB are as mature and fast as PCI interfaces for their hammerfalls. Whoever thinks PCI is dead will have to wait for the funeral.

It's not that we would wish PCI die, but it's mobo manufacturers who are letting it die. And that is the real problem. How long it makes sense to manufacture PCI preripherals, while they don't work in new mobos.

Every new mobo generation seems to be just more and more toys for gamers and overclockers. Where are the solutions for professionals?

There is a PCI to PCIe magma chasis. I wonder if that could extend the life of PCI and Scope. Not that I could ever afford such item.

On 2005-12-22 15:44, Stige wrote:
Where are the solutions for professionals?

It's called an Apple Macintosh computer, OS and hardware from the same manufacturer, soft- and hardware designed for multi medea use

Pc market is focussing on the biggest piece of the cace, gaming, we'll have to accept that
It's just that CWA isn't ready yet for OSX, and the question is if it ever will be...
An external box would fit both platforms, but it will be an investment, that's for sure.
Hope the new Intel macs will inspire CWA to pick up the thread soon...
Sorry for OT...

On 2005-12-22 14:03, stardust wrote:
Also RME said that neither firewire nor USB are as mature and fast as PCI interfaces for their hammerfalls. Whoever thinks PCI is dead will have to wait for the funeral.

PCI is certainly dead in the Mac world! Apple no longer includes PCI with the new PowerMacs. Sound card manufacturers are going to have to start releasing PCI-e cards pretty soon (DigiDesign is the first to do so) in order to support the new Macs. Unfortunately, three PCI-e x1 slots aren't a standard item yet in the PC world, so DigiDesign's new Pro-Tools is Mac-only; but when three PCI-e x1 slots becomes standard on Intel, it's going to be the obvious successor to PCI. I absolutely insist that PCI-e is the route Scope should go when it becomes available, and make it both Windows and Mac OS X compatible with 200MHz Sharc chips (enabling functional 96KHz processing). Couldn't ask for anything more!!

(I also hope that chipset makers like nVidia and Intel get PCI working properly on the next generation of PCI-e boards. Then we can continue to use our old Scopes as we transition onto the next platform.)

Shayne

Yes,
I will await that time and be prepared, redundantly so. I froth over the idea of 200mhz SHARCS.

Not to be overly pedantic, but things are moderately lukewarm now (first Digi & now MOTU):
http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/20 ... e-424.html
or
http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=1196



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: valis on 2006-03-08 05:20 ]</font>

//ignite//

seems UAD and TC powercore have PCIe cards out and available as well. Anything looming on the horizon? Pretty quiet on the Creamware front...
I'm interested as a potential buyer (with 3 pci-e x1 slots not being used)...

IMHO with the way that things are continuously changing right now, it would be crazy for a company so recently in financial trouble to commit to any single format at this point. A wrong decision could kill the company for good. There are still plenty of motherboards with PCI slots, and I'd say that there will continue to be for at least 2 years. Within that time I think there will be a better picture of what format to go for.

If you're a potential buyer, you should know that there is *nothing* that does what the Creamware cards do, and I've used all systems including Pro Tools HD.

stardust wrote:
...and I assume there will be PCI-e -> PCI adapters. When it is time for it.

Doubt it. PCI-e is a ver' fast bi-directional serial bus, PCI (and PCI-X) is parallel. That'd require some funk-E hardware to achieve!

( Remember folks: PCI-e is NOT PCI-X )

I'm pretty sure Magma already has PCIe -> PCI solutions available.