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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:59 am
by Man-Machine
Hello,

I just want to use my Scope Project card for the synthesizers like a Noah on my synth rack. What would be a pc minimum hardware requirements just to run the synths alone? Do you guys know of good pc rackmount cases? Has anybody else done something similar? I'm open to ideas...

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:49 pm
by mr swim
I'm not sure about the specifics of rack-mount cases, but I'm sure that you could get away with a VERY limited computer if you're just using synths - all the hard work happens in the card.

[edit] you just need enough pci bandwidth to transmit MIDI (i.e. hardly any) and to co-ordinate the GUI (i.e. a little bit more)

There are lots of people here using comparatively old systems which would be considered obselete in other DAW environments ! Indeed, they can be MORE stable. I nice tweaked win 98 SE is all that's really needed.

Good luck, and let us know how it goes.

W

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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:14 am
by symbiote
Yeah, I have an Asus CUSL2 + p3-700MHz setup and it's fine. I'd say the minimum requirement would be around 300-400MHz, as long as you have a good chipset and good PCI performance, you shouldn't have any problems.

I have an Infinite Vortex Midnite Blue rackmount case that's ultra uber leet, can't remember who their supplier was tho. It's 3-4U big, fairly heavy, but everyone who sees it goes "oooh what's that blue box, it's pretty neat." Great chick magnet =P I'm not sure a case smaller than 3U could accomodate a Scope board, maybe if you find one that has one or two horizontal PCI slots.

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:33 pm
by Immanuel
You need to watch the depth spec of the Rack mount PC case. Many are way too deep to fit into a normal rack.

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:33 pm
by Man-Machine
I gotta watch the price of some of these too. Gosh, why are they so expensive...

Maybe I just get a nice horizontal case. They'd work too. What are they called? I need a keyword to search on Google...

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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:40 pm
by spiderman
pc rackmount 19"
mine is very heavy . maybe it's why it's so expensive ? :cool:

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:15 pm
by Man-Machine
Well, I guess I found a better solution for my setup. I'm keeping the Creamware card in the same machine as my firewire interface but I route the synths in through ADAT into the firewire audio card. This way I keep the XTC type routing and mixing in Cubase but not restricted to XTC devices and other XTC issues :smile:

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:05 pm
by marcuspocus
Yeah, that approximatly what i'm doing to, routing everything in adat. Using my firewire interface for asio and preamps, pulsar for processing audio with flexor, and some synths too :smile:

Work great.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:05 am
by R.D. Olivaw

Maybe I just get a nice horizontal case. They'd work too. What are they called? I need a keyword to search on Google...
perhaps talking about Shuttles ?

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:20 am
by next to nothing
On 2005-02-14 12:33, Man-Machine wrote:
I gotta watch the price of some of these too. Gosh, why are they so expensive...

Maybe I just get a nice horizontal case. They'd work too. What are they called? I need a keyword to search on Google...

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some thing like this maybe?

http://www.arena-chieftec.com/?page=pro ... anguage=uk

or this:

http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13730

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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:27 am
by Immanuel
You may be able to somehow attach some rack ears to that thing.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:45 am
by next to nothing
and a bit more expensive, but true racks:

http://www.chieftec.de/?page=products_1 ... anguage=uk

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:50 pm
by Immanuel
and deep :sad:
You will have a hard time finding a musician rack to fit them into. It apears, that PC-rack clossets are depper, and so are the boxes.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:58 pm
by Man-Machine
Ok, I ended up getting this...

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15728#

because I bought this...

http://www.quiklok.com/300x300/sku_Z_555_Loaded.jpg

but I have this on top of it instead...

http://alesis.com/products/a6/

with this on the rack...

http://www.tascam.com/Products/fw1804.html

and a 20" flat screen monitor is on the way...

This was all just bought with my first paid music project! It's nice to have a hobby that can sustain itself financially on the side :smile:



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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:30 pm
by hubird
seems the machine part of you is taking over :grin:

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:38 am
by next to nothing
... now go make some music! :wink:

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:32 am
by Shroomz~>
This is a link to a usefull r/mount server 'chassis'/'mobo' comparison chart. It's quite specific, but quite usefull 4 info if your thinking 'older server board in 2u rack with PCI riser card'
>>type of thing ....don't forget to take some of those noisy drives & fans out tho !
:eek:) .....>>>
http://www.supermicro.com/manuals/matri ... bility.pdf

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:59 am
by Shroomz~>
Meant to say also, that google comes up with companies worldwide who supply cheap PCI riser cards for about 50-80 $$.
32 bit, various specs, active, passive, 1u, 2u name it :smile:
Any thoughts or experience ??