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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:00 am
by cream
Don't you think CW should inform their customers about the fact that the cards they sell don't fit on all motherboards?
Maybe i'm missing something here but after 3 years i suddenly came to the conclusion that one of my cards didn't fit properly into the slot of my motherboard. Now i know where all these unexpected errors came from.

I moved it to a slot where there are no diodes (or something) next to the slot. Since a week i have a (free) new computer and i was surprised why some motherboards have those irritating things next to the slots. I can sell my computer now because it cannot be used as a CW-computer.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:14 am
by cream
Ok lets explain it a bit. Cellphones..
Crazy discounts nowadays. You buy a cellphone and get a pc for free. As i was looking for a faster system this seems to be a real bargain. I opened the case; saw three pci slots. I wanted to put the CW-cards in but..what the %#&@. The cards don't fit! I think this is a cheap board of asus but on my older( read better)asus board there where only 2 slots from the 5 where those cw cards could fit. On the crappy newer board there where none! I think it's standard that those electric components sit next to these slots so that's why i'm thinking creamware should inform their customers that their card can be too broad for some motherboards. Or make thinner cards.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:20 am
by cream
oh btw. Cw-cards can work fine when they are not correctly fit in their mobo. I didn't noticed it for a long time. You just get , let's say, once in a month an unexpected error. I really was thinking that the card was well fitted. Now i'm glad it wasn't.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:51 am
by symbiote
Don't you think motherboard vendors should inform you that some cards won't fit on their boards?
Obviously, Creamware can't try their cards with absolutely every motherboard in existence. And motherboard vendors can't try every PCI cards in existence.
On the other hand, something can be done, and you did it right, i.e. if as a user you find such an occurence, you can come here and post the information yourself to inform others. That way over time we can build a sort of database of what hardware works well, and what hardware to steer clear of.
So what was that board's exact model again?
As a side note, I've found that pretty often, with electronics, you get what you pay for. Cheaper means cut corners, less quality control, not-well-thought-out stuff (like component positions on the board

) and other things. So don't expect miracles from cheap hardware.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:31 am
by cream
you're right. I should blame it on the motherboard. Why do they make these annoying electronic components next to my slots so i can't use my CW-cards!
As i said, the components are also on the more expensive (better ?) mobo's.
Anyone in need of a pc?
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:12 pm
by valis
Incidentally PCI-X is a format supported only by server motherboards from the past 2 years and the Mac G5 (its being phased out completely from the PC server motherboards too). PCI-e is the new format that we know as Pci-Express and is appearing on consumer (and server) motherboards to replace PCI-32.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:54 pm
by garyb
don't use cheap pcs with $1000 soundcards!