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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:12 am
by Cochise
Hi.

Audio tracks mastered on CDs sound low.

I actually work in Nuendo 2, setting the output level in the mixdown track so close as possible to zero, searching the compromise between a loud sound with no clips and low compression ratios for more dynamics.
Listening the tracks by Nuendo, through Asio source modules, the levels on STM 1632 correspond to what I see in Nuendo mixer VU meters.
When I export tracks and listen to them as wav files through wave source modules, the level is much dBs lower, and that is what I gonna master on CDs.
I've tryed several ASIO modules with the same result. I've tryed different exportation forms (as track, as audio mixdown, reading wav files in Nuendo project Edits directory).
Finally, the same file sounds different in level if I play it by Nuendo or as wav file by Wavelab or other applications.
What's the right expotation form for mixdowns? Any hint?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:48 pm
by garyb
it's got nothing to do with asio and it's got everything to do with dynamics. the peaks can be at zero, but if the average level is low, then it will sound low. creative use of limiting/compression is the key to sounding "loud". do some searches under "mastering".

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:10 pm
by Cochise
The same dynamic range I've obtained using various tricks, is shifted a lot of dBs lower (as I can see in the STM Vu meter and as I can hear) if I play it back out of Nuendo, and so it's too close to the noise floor.
Do U mean search by Google?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:38 pm
by hubird
no, planetz :smile:

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:06 pm
by symbiote
Have you tried playing the track out of Nuendo, in Winamp/SoundRec/WMP/Soundfroge/Cooledit or similar programs? If you listen to it thru Nuendo, it might go thru the mixer again, might explain why it doesn't sound as loud, like if the mixer's levels aren't at 0dB etc.

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:31 pm
by Cochise
Sure, in Nuendo mixer the track fader and the master fader are set to zero.
And in the Media Player, Real player, and so on, the output level is set to maximum.

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:35 pm
by Cochise
Now it works.
It's weird!
It's like sometimes I get -5 dB from wave source.

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:32 pm
by mitkofen
On 2004-11-25 13:35, Cochise wrote:
Now it works.
It's weird!
It's like sometimes I get -5 dB from wave source.
Hi!
How do you fix that!?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:46 am
by him
we can press"shift+S" and choose the output as "0db" cause the default is "-3db" .


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