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Heya all,

This is great news for us battery users who love the program but felt it went the wayside in the progress stage, still years later they introduce some nice features.

This sort of kills me because I just bought the Linplug RMIV after using battery for years and wanting filters and more tweaking ability in my drum app lol, I also purchased the DR008 at a super low cost, but kills me that 3 weeks later NI release this news heh.

Seems the upgrade is going to be roughly $118.00 USD, not amazing but not a fortune it also is going to ship with a 3.5G library.

Here is the actually email I recieved.

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World Premiere: BATTERY 2

[Deutsche Version unten]

Dear BATTERY user,

Native Instruments is proud to present the latest version of
BATTERY, the next generation in drum sampling.
The flexible production tool has been completely revamped. Version 2
now boasts numerous additional and vastly improved features as well
as an optimized user-interface, ensuring a far more efficient and
versatile use of drum samples.
The customizable cell-matrix now contains up to 72 sample-cells
allowing the use of large drum kits. Every cell comes equipped with
its own dedicated multi-mode filter and a compressor allowing
detailed adjustments to be made for each individual sample. Extended
modulation options including freely assignable envelopes and LFOs,
flexible Loop section, a graphical mapping editor managing 128
sample layers per cell, a 3.5 GB sample library, compatibility to
virtually every sample format and a whole lot more make BATTERY 2
the ultimate weapon for firing blazing beats.

BATTERY 2 will be available in November 2004. Registered BATTERY
users will be able to purchase an inexpensive update version which
includes the 3.5 GB sample library.

All the details on BATTERY 2:
-> http://www.native-instruments.com/battery2r.info

Best regards,

Your Native Instruments Team




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Basic Pitch on 2004-10-02 00:27 ]</font>

sad you bought other drum stuff just before the new update, BP!
Someone on the NI battery forum said a few weeks ago that an update was coming, he was told so in a reply email from NI.
I hardly could believe that, but now I have to, I got the above mail too
I'm very happy with it, but I agree with you that they could have communicated better with an announcement some time ago!

Linplug & dr008 still have interesting features and are useful imo. I like the ability to layer different keygroups on the same pad/output in rmIV and dr008's extreme flexibility is highly useful. The thing that always appealed to me about battery was the envelope controls, they seem to make things nice & punchy compared to even Kontakt...

finally!

I wonder if they'll address one of the more inflexible features of Battery 1 and allow one to save & load individual cells (all layers) rather than just being able to 'save kit' & 'add kit'?

Fingers crossed...

Royston

(sigh) lol

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Mehdi_T on 2004-10-04 15:18 ]</font>

On 2004-10-04 04:15, Counterparts wrote:
I wonder if they'll address one of the more inflexible features of Battery 1 and allow one to save & load individual cells (all layers) rather than just being able to 'save kit' & 'add kit'?

Fingers crossed...

Royston

Yes they have, apparently.
Ben

Wahey! Thanks Ben.

Royston

Welp,

That was one of the desirable features of RMIV that I went for, ill prob update battery 2 aswell since I used it for ages, just comfortable, but I sure do hate NI's copy protection, if they ever went out of buisiness there would a whole heap of people that would get screwed over hehe.

One thing that I like about RMIV is that you can assign multiple zones to a single 'pad' which means I can have 5 different snares assigned to the same output but on different keyzones...of course they did add more pads to battery.

Basic Pitch wrote:
but I sure do hate NI's copy protection

Do you mean the strange holes in the Battery CD?

Royston

I think he probably means the more recent challenge / response method.

The two holes in the prior Battery CD were practically useless... Most CDR rom drives (especially the Yamahas) at the time could still back it up regardless. I know, I backed up my own disc (as I do with all of them) with little problem using CDRWIN.

IMHO, the best means to get someone to purchase the "real" thing is an excellent, well written, hard copy (paper) manual! Other than that it's something hardware based like our own Scope cards, UAD-1 or Powercore which all lack piracy in the recent versions.

Challenge / response just sucks. I'd rather have yet another dongle! I already have three of those.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sinix on 2004-10-06 07:36 ]</font>

sinix wrote:
I think he probably means the more recent challenge / response method.

Hmmm...I am not familiar with this mechanism, just the holey CD thing

Does it go like this:

Battery: "What's the twelth root of 189.65?"
User: "Errr...."
Battery: "Haha! Too late!"
User: "Bugger!"


On a more serious note, does it require internet access?

Royston

haha, but yes, that's about the way it goes
You need internet, the process is computer automated.
Dunno what NI would do with a classic paper mail with a response request...

Thanks Hubird.

I don't have internet access at home (where I'd install it). Might have to hassle NI a bit.

Royston

The reason it all scares me is I own many NI's apps, not a Komplet set I purchased many as singles and when I was having trouble getting my Scope system up and running I had to reformat my system a few times before I was set, with the way NI is, almost all my products I had to call and explain to them the situation which they were not exactly overly helpfull about.

The NI guys said you are only entitled to 2 installs, and one rep had said your not allowed more licences, I explained the reformating thing because of scope and while they gave me more installs in a new key they were overly grumpy about it.

So what I mean in the end was, that imagine if NI went out of buisiness and didnt create some form of way to make it so you can always install your app, everything you purchased would be dead in the water, scary situation

Cheers!

illegal warez win again...

My personal experience with NI wasn't terribly hot either...Battery 1.0 was horribly buggy and later versions refused to work properly with Logic in many cases. Kontakt worked fine but would NOT detect SSE/1 or SSE/2 on my dual (p4-class) Xeons. I happen to know for a fact that this is a simple discrepancy with the cpuid result (xeons return different than any of the 'normal' p4 cores) and yet NI took 2 years to 'fix' it for me. By the time they finally did I was long on the way to using other products...although it was nice to see my typical cpu usage drop by about 50% or more...

However Battery2 looks exciting for all of you who enjoy using NI products, hope you enjoy it

Basic Pitch wrote:
The NI guys said you are only entitled to 2 installs

!?!? Bloomin' cheek!

I have sent them a couple of queries today regarding these issues. I'll post back here when I get some answers out of them.

Royston

Ok, I'd like to know their answer, it would be rediculous if it's true, damn!

Not sure of the motive but,

Obviously they eventually gave me the additional installs but when you purchase a product from them, atleast when I spoke to the USA Customer service, I was explained your entitled to two installs and then the licence needs to I guess be reset, overall they were not happy and eager to do this for me.

Cheers!