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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:22 am
by suthnear
Hi,

I recently had an andromeda A6 in my studio. I have a fair bit of gear so I decided that it wasn't worth the money, but, nevertheless, there were definitely areas it went where the rest of my gear does not seem to go. Specifically, those huge, dark and drifty vangelis-esque pads: where you can hear the oscillators buzzing against each other and the oscillators' harmonics being plucked out as the filter sweeps. The sound of electronic bliss.

Anyway, while I had it (and after it was gone) I expended considerable effort trying to replicate this on my existing gear. I have a number of VA polysynths, VSTis and creamware synths but none of them really captured the essence of that sound. So I demoed every VSTi that promised buttery analoguey goodness but I was disappointed each time. The emulations that were good (impOSCar, korg) had a different sound, but the ones that attempted that sound weren't good (no names, let's just say they've been mentioned in the same breath as creamware a few times).

Then I noticed creamware had released profit 5. I listened to the demo track and thought I could hear something. I was surprised at the lack of comment on this board though, so I felt a bit apprehensive when I bought it. This lasted precisely until the dev finished loading in SFP.

Profit 5 is one of the best sounding synthesizers I have ever heard. I was totally blown away. I spent hours with it last night and I didn't do much more than step through a few presets and play. Those oscillators, that filter. Mmmmmmmmmm. By the time I went to bed last night, it was clear to me not only that I'd found the sound I was looking for but also that I preferred it to the andromeda: it is richer and more musical. Even my moog voyager was looking a little sheepish at times :smile: If you love synthesizers you would be mad not to get this... Oh, and it sounds even better with a little sonic timeworks ambience.

They might exasperate me with their total indifference to my emails and their refusal to send me scope4, but creamware has the best synthesizer DSP gurus on the planet. Huge kudos to them.

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:15 am
by valis
Why they might be unresponsive to emails:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... orum=10&26

As for SFP4, assuming you have a decent net connection, once you have registered yourself and your boards you can 'upgrade' to SFP4 right on their site. Follow the instructions or ask for help here and you can download it directly...

And glad to hear you're enjoying your purchase!

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:48 am
by Grok
The Profit 5 is a monster...

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:57 am
by astroman
we're just spoiled kids with all that great sounding stuff - one takes it for granted that a CWA device sounds like the Profit...

I've called it 'probably CWA's best sounding synth...' at least one time - but that's admittedly not very enthusiastic :wink:

cheers, Tom

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:59 am
by suthnear
I've called it 'probably CWA's best sounding synth...'
I'm in complete agreement...

p.s. I didn't have a decent net connection, but am in the process of resolving this. Then I will definitely get scope4.

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:46 pm
by Shayne White
How do you think it sounds compared to MiniMax? I know one's a Prophet and the other's a Moog, but in terms of oomph...

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:12 pm
by decimator
It's nice to know where CWA stands, I was always curious to know if for instance Prodyssey, ProTone and Profit 5 were in fact possibly better sounding than the originals ( if you take the " best " model )

Again, CWA should post some ads at Sonicstate or such to make it clear that's it's the real stuff without the hardware annoyances.

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:43 pm
by Grok
On 2004-09-09 16:46, Shayne White wrote:
How do you think it sounds compared to MiniMax? I know one's a Prophet and the other's a Moog, but in terms of oomph...
... more OOMPH with the Profit 5 unison mode (and the detune of each voices used by the unison mode)...

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:29 pm
by Liquid Len
The Prophet-5 is a very good sounding synth - I wasn't disappointed. Sounds similar to the Pro-One but has a different character - a bit clearer and less brassy. As for comparing it to the Minimax or Prodyssey, it's a bit like apples and oranges. Each of those synths has a very distinct sound, overall I think I like the Prodyssey the best of all. The Minimax has a wild, crazy character that doesn't necessarily suit every tune, I find - it doesn't 'blend in' as much as 'add an edge' to the music - especially good for over-the-edge keyboard solos and fills. The Oddysey does not sound as crazy as the Minimax - but has a weirdness about it still - its pads are lush, if somewhat spooky, and can do synth bass sounds very well. The Prophet-5 and Pro-One are clearer sounding overall - they blend in best with other instruments and sound very punchy.