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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:57 pm
by borg
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:06 pm
by darkrezin
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:43 pm
by Spirit
This looks very, very good. A perhaps a good match with SFP... I was waiting for AcidPro5, but might switch.
Both are due in July for Summer Namm (well, I'm guesing with AcidPro, but that's where AP4 wasannounced), so it'll be interesting to compare.
Maybe they'll do another crossgrade ?
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:31 am
by valis
I've always loved 'playing around' in the 'live' mixer of the Live demo, and could always see using it for some of the sampling/looping duties. Its lack of midi has kept me from investing in it as I don't do live gigs and already own enough looping tools to get by.
I'm looking forward to the v4 demo download at the end of July

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:03 pm
by braincell
Cubase bombs a lot for me. I might switch.
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:13 pm
by Astral Fridge Magnet
Hello all,
I love Ableton!!!!! Version 4 seems cool!!! I can't wait till it comes out!!! I still won't abandon Cubase and Logic though.
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:51 pm
by Spirit
I've been playing with the v3 demo a lot (as I have before). While it is very good at constructing "bits", I have a lot of trouble making little transitions between those "bits". In other words, constructing an entire song seems a lot more difficult to me than, for example, Acid...
I had arranged a very good price on this, but now I'm getting skeptical and am holding back.
Ableton certainly has a huge initial "wow factor", but I think I'll wait and see what Acid 5 has to offer.
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:08 am
by valis
I'm curious why you would find Acid (specifically) easier?
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:34 am
by Spirit
It's "arrange" window is a lot more functional and faster (pure opinion of course). I think it's also because everything happens in the arrange window that makes creating little bridges and fills much easier. Doing those in Ableton just seems so tedious...
Perhaps my Ableton methods are wrong ?
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:40 am
by borg
been testing live4 for a few days now. it certainly rocks... it's great to have the same features for midi clips than we had for audio.
there's still some things i haven't found or is not present, that would make it
the one stop solution for me (like recording midi automation. you can do it of course, but could be easier), and still a few bugs. but it definitely feels great!
richard, you know you can drag all your little clips in session view to arrangement (to do this, drag your clip to the upper right corner, to the arrangement button (three horizontal lines)) and drop the clips anywhere you want (track/time), edit them there without altering the original clip in session...
i'm sure i still haven't touched 10% of its possibilities.
are you still flexorless???

the master of ramps was here yesterday... one large triangle wave playing in ableton live going via a seperate channel to modulars in sfp... all perfectly in sync. route the resulting audio back to ableton and there you have your beloved, perfectly cut, 'exported' wavs. named and everything...

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 7:40 am
by Spirit
Borg, it's spooky. You know more about me than I do !

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:19 pm
by huffcw
The beta version is now available to current users - anyone here testing?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:20 pm
by borg
testing and loving it all the way...
quadruple drool

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:48 pm
by King of Snake
does Live support VST instruments and fx?
From the site it seems it doesn't do instruments but it does do fx but I'm not sure.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:32 am
by borg
yes your highness, the soon (end of july) to be released ableton Live4 does vst/au fx and instruments.
there is a public beta since this week. don't know if it's free to non-Live owners, though.
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:57 am
by King of Snake
(Darth Vader voice)
*Impressive....Most impressive*

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:15 am
by valis
Its not free to non-users but I believe there will be a public beta as well before final release.
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:22 am
by mr swim
Do you think there is much point considering Ableton Live if you're not planning on using it in a live setting ? (Is that a silly question ? Not sure)
I haven't really considered it before, but now it has midi it looks more my kinda thing ...
W
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:52 am
by borg
beta 4.0b9 is available for everyone. even to people not owning live.
if you've never played with ableton before, you might be overwhelmed/disappointed.
for starters, record some audio, open a 'simpler' in a midi channel, select (a part from) the recorded audio and throw it in simpler. start playing. i'm impressed with 'impulse' as well.
both very simple devices, but cool things can be done.
play on.
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=5
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:20 am
by marcuspocus
The more i see it the more i think i need this seq
Looks very very promising with the included midi !
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Been playing with al4 this morning, and man, that's what i want. They nailed down the exact workflow i was dreaming about
Midi is what was missing.
They also fixed the master out assignation, where before you could only use the first output as master, good...
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