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Hi all!

This might be really stupid question but I spent whole day reading this and creamware forum and couldn't find anything usefull.

So what is bugging me, how can I use SFP effects as inserts in Cubase SX? I saw that post for logic when that guy uses some I/O helper to send audio out and then get it back in. I couldn't find any plugin that would do that for cubase. Any idea how to do that?

Sorry for my broken english.

Have a nice day!

Thanks in advance!

Best regards, Igor

out a bus,back in a channel....

someone has probably made such a vst effect insert, but i haven't seen it.

That's really uncomfortable. I am not using only SFP effects, so if my insert chain contains VST>SFP>VST>SFP effects I would than need about 3 or 4 channels for that, so that does not work for me.

I hope there is some another solution!

Tnx!

Best regards, Igor

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=5&21

Check my post - no 8.
Possibly a different way to work for you, but I find it very effective

It very easy to do in Sonar with the aux sends/returns and ability to route different channels to different outputs. I wish I could help with Cubase, but I don't own that program.

However, here is the general principle:

You first need to setup SFP with multiple ASIO or WAVE in/outs to route to and from your audio program. You will need a set of hardware inputs that you want to route to the ASIO/WAVE destinations (or if you are processing material already recorded, you may not have any live inputs).

In the audio software, setup up aux sends and returns to use the multiple ASIO/WAVE ins and outs. You will also need to setup the master out of the audio software to route back to SFP and to a physical SFP output.

In SFP, you can use the ASIO/WAVE ins and outs that the aux sends and returns are routed to in your audio program to add effects. You may want to use the MultiFX to add a series of effects.

In your audio program, you can simply route the channels that you want to add effects to through the aux busses like you would on a hardware mixer. Use the pre and post setting of the channels and the aux channel settings to get the sound mix you are looking for.

If you want to record the effects, simply select the SFP ASIO/WAVE destination being sent to the aux return as an input for one of your record channels in your audio program.

I hope that helps.

Well, maybe that will not work for you (I stepped away while writing my response, came back to finish and noticed the other posts after I submitted).

I am not aware of another solution that would allow you to insert VST effects inbetween your SFP effects without using multiple channels routed to and from the SFP environment. And the issue here is added latency and complexity.

Although, I wonder if you could use something like Reaktor for this purpose. Setup a patch with in/out modules in Reaktor routed back in fourth to SFP, then insert Reaktor as an insert effect using this patch where you want it? I am not sure if Reaktor could be used this way, it's just a thought.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: huffcw on 2004-05-28 14:32 ]</font>

Why do you want to have them as inserts inside Cubase anyway ?

Another thought... it's too bad that the SFP environment doesn't allow you to insert VST effects directly into the mixer. I know there is an issue with latency, but it would really help streamline things if you wanted to use VST effects mixed with SFP effects.

Plato: well as far as I know dynamics have to be inserted and that's the only way. I might be mistaken, I am just a beginner, but I think it has to be done like this.

Best regards, Igor

On 2004-05-28 14:34, huffcw wrote:
Another thought... it's too bad that the SFP environment doesn't allow you to insert VST effects directly into the mixer. I know there is an issue with latency, but it would really help streamline things if you wanted to use VST effects mixed with SFP effects.

Actually, yes you can!

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=14&2

Ibenko, I think you just need to rethink the way you're working......check my post out:
In order to get the most out of the Scope environment you should be bussing audio out from your seq, and then you can use inserts/auxs, or just plug directly into any Scope device.....this way you can use VST & Scope FX on the same signal - obviously the Scope FX will come after VST processing, but you can always pipe audio back to the sequencer & record it/reprocess it etc if necessary.