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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:23 am
by kindread
I have seen the news about Sfp4 but I dont see anything that says about what platform it will available for. Could someone in the know pass on the info

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:52 am
by borg
CW, or rather, some kind third party developers, are working on it. if Scope v4 comes out this week, OSX most probably won't be supported yet.

word is, it shouldn't take that long anymore.
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... 5&start=60 take a look at the bottom of page 4 of this thread.
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:53 am
by sinix
Initiall, no, it will not support OSX. If you follow some of the recent threads here though, there is an active movement to develop for linux and OS X.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:54 am
by hubird

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:55 am
by alfonso
I read here that OS X is in a developement stage and Scope 4.0 was given at the Musikmesse in Frankfurt, so I would exclude it, but things seem on their way... :smile:

Keep in mind that CWA is coming from a very hard reorganization and now we can guess that things are starting to move again with some stability, but I think that we cant expect too much from this release, apart some very nice software packages reorganization for the new customers.

I think that the new energy put in OS X and Linux developement is a great move towards the future and the announcement of the SDK tools for free is the real revolution for the customers.
I can't wait!

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:55 am
by siberiansun
PC requirements: 400 MHz or better, 128 MB of memory, Microsoft Windows ME or better

Mac requirements: G3 B/W, 400 MHz, 128 MB of memory, MacOS 9.x


the phrase "windows ME or better" and the lack of "or better" after MacOs 9.x makes it hard to believe it's OsX compatible.

of course this is pure speculations and should be regarded as nothing more than me babbling.. :wink:

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:57 am
by alfonso
4 people posting together! :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:00 pm
by siberiansun
HE! yes.

-"ok guys, on three. one.. two.. "

:smile:

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:11 am
by kindread
Thanks guys for the responses
I am the patient type so I feel better knowing that it will appear. The when part dosent phase me so much.

I think CW should be happy that their products can inspire others to find their inner virtues:-)

Rock on CW

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:05 pm
by borg
pfffff... today, we got a new G5 dual 1,8 and DP4 at work... boy, does it look great, and smell nice too :grin: unfortunately the 'house mac freak' told me running OSX on my b/w G3 would be a bad idea (no, he doesn't work for mac or a mac shop).

still, hoping for you G4 guys and creamware's market position it will smoke and be out soon.

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:29 pm
by astroman
well, it should be worth the effort (and price) to plug in a G4 upgrade board :smile:
A lot of software benefits from the G4 altivec architecture, as you probably know.

The only 'issue' might be the PCI graph card, but I don't think bandwidth trouble will be as hard as on PC, though it's a rather subjective opinion - I don't have any performance figures.
The controller in your Mac doesn't support HDs beyond 130 GB, but the OS does (via FireWire).
To make it short: with a 1 GHZ CPU it's still a great machine, and a good looking one :grin:

cheers, Tom

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:43 pm
by borg
ha, tom!

if only we would live a bit closer to each other :smile:
i've been a regular visitor of xlr8yourmac lately. still waiting for this LG dvd:cd drive i ordered some weeks ago from a local dealer.
of course i'd like to have a machine as fast as possible, but as i only seem to use the mac for CW and internet, i'm not so sure to spend the extra € on further upgrades, only to be able to run scope under OSX.
although i must admit, core audio, jack, soundflower,... it all seems very tempting :grin:
well, don't be surprised if you find a note from me in your letterbox one of these days to look into these matters :wink:
thanks, againandagain.

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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:27 pm
by samplaire
jack is interesting but not stable now so you don't miss anything in that matter. Numerology! That's the horse!

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:36 pm
by samplaire
On 2004-04-15 14:29, astroman wrote:
well, it should be worth the effort (and price) to plug in a G4 upgrade board :smile:
I don't know if the zif cards (g3 to g4 upgrade cards) work good with CW cards. G4 macs can be upgraded with cards installed directly in the CPU socket while older models in zif or pci ones - I have no idea if it causes any problems :roll:

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:36 pm
by wsippel
@samplaire

I think you mean Jack for OSX?
The Linux version is very stable. And cool (the whole Linux audio framework has the same routing capabilities (Audio & MIDI) as SFP... :wink:).

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:37 pm
by hubird
a friend of mine upgraded very succesfully from G3 to G4/1,2 GHz (by processor exchange).
A year ago now already, OS-X working also, no problems at all :smile:

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:42 am
by samplaire
Does he use any CW stuff? If so then that's great news :cool:

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:43 am
by samplaire
On 2004-04-15 18:36, wsippel wrote:
I think you mean Jack for OSX?
yep

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:16 am
by hubird
On 2004-04-16 03:42, samplaire wrote:
Does he use any CW stuff? If so then that's great news :cool:
no.

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:01 am
by astroman
just plugged a Pulsar into an G4/350 accelerated PM 7600, just to prove it could be done...
mixed results:
it installs flawlessly with software 3.01 (last pre-SFP) and runs.
the SFP 3.1 installer seems to be a piece of sh*t, sorry, but it didn't even see the board.
It's a CWA DIY installer, opposed to the 3.01 version which uses InstallerVise.
Now I understand the Mac probs a little better... :roll:

The GUI is exactly the same speed with either onboard graphic or a PCI Rage 128 board.
The PCI bandwidth seems not to be affected by the graph card, one miserable Masterverb :eek: but well, it's a 44MHZ bus with EDO Ram...
On the other hand I have a PCI ATA controller which probably blocks the bus, but that's an almost 'must have' device today.

Neverthelass, as a synth rack such a machine is quite usable - though I admit it's a somewhat absurd configuration :wink:
On 2004-04-15 15:43, borg wrote:
...well, don't be surprised if you find a note from me in your letterbox one of these days to look into these matters :wink:
you're welcome :grin:
a couple of times a year a friend provides us (in the office) with a good portion of original Belgium potatoes, accompained by the proper Belgium fat to make some world-class frites, delicious :lol:

cheers, Tom