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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:17 pm
by garyb
do you have a nice clubhouse as well?
because if you do... :wink:

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:28 am
by garyb
stay with this one for a moment... :lol:

source=The History of the
House of Rothschild by Andrew Hitchcock :

1871: An American General named, Albert Pike, who had been enticed into the Illuminati by Guissepe Mazzini, completes his military blueprint for three world wars and various revolutions throughout the world, culminating into moving this great conspiracy into its final stage.

The first world war is to be fought for the purpose of destroying the Tsar in Russia,as promised by Nathan Mayer Rothschild in 1815. The Tsar is to be replaced with communism which is to be used to attack religions, predominantly Christianity. The differences between the British and German empires are to be used to forment this war.

The second world war is to be used to forment the controversy between facism and political zionism with the slaughter of Jews in Germany a lynchpin in bringing hatred against the German people. This is designed to destroy fascism (which the Rothschilds created) and increase the power of political zionism. This war is also designed to increase the power of communism to the level that it equalled that of united Christendom.

The third world war is to be played out by stirring up hatred of the Muslim world for the purposes of playing the Islamic world and the political zionists off against one another. Whilst this is going on, the remaining nations would be forced to fight themselves into a state of mental, physical, spiritual and economic exhaustion.

On August 15th of this year, Albert Pike writes a letter (now catalogued in the British Museum) to Guiseppe Mazzini in which he states the following,

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view.
A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Pike, who having been elected as Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry's Southern Jurisdiction in 1859, was the most powerful Freemason in America. He would retain that post for 32 years until his death in 1891. He also published a book on the subject in 1872 entitled, "Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry," in which he candidly states the following,

"LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"

the light bearer! the bringer of reason and wisdom and knowledge! :lol:

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:50 am
by fra77x
I read a interesting book which has a relation with that subject. Maybe some of you would like to check it.

It is written by Isaiah Berlin. It is called: Three critics of the enlightenment. Vico, Herder, Hamman. (greek title)

All the best

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:19 am
by braincell
garyb wrote:do you have a nice clubhouse as well?
because if you do... :wink:
Unlike the groups with superstition and idiotic rituals, Atheists groups must pay taxes.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:30 am
by BingoTheClowno
garyb wrote:do you have a nice clubhouse as well?
because if you do... :wink:
Yup, that's where we take our children to be sodomized.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:07 am
by manfriday
Yup, that's where we take our children to be sodomized.
classy!

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:32 pm
by garyb
BingoTheClowno wrote:
garyb wrote:do you have a nice clubhouse as well?
because if you do... :wink:
Yup, that's where we take our children to be sodomized.

:lol:
that fits in perfectly with this quote from Albert, i have a statue outside the US
Justice dept building, Pike:
"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view."
:lol:

http://www.cafepress.com/kelleyimages/806578
albert p[ike is buried here: http://www.scottishrite.org/visitors/vtour.html

good old Albert! he founded the KKK... :lol:

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:49 pm
by Mr Arkadin
garyb wrote:
"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
He obviously doesn't know many atheists then - all the ones i know are peace loving.
"Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration[...]"
Again, a true atheist (if i am to use that label) isn't looking for anyone to adore - that's the whole point for me, so i don't see myself worshipping Lucifer or any other bollocky political creature thrown for me to adore. There's no disillusionment because i don't believe in the illusion in the first place, i'm not looking for something else to worship and i don't think many are, well not in the UK anyway.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:59 pm
by manfriday
He obviously doesn't know many atheists then - all the ones i know are peace loving.
You don't have to be physically violent to wage a social 'war' so to speak..

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:22 pm
by garyb
Mr. A,
Pike is serious. i'm not nessessarily.
i'm not casting aspesrsions toward anyone nessessarily either, just teasing.

that doesn't mean that these guys aren't running their program......a copy of Morals and Dogma is given to all 32nd degree scottish rite masons. since you are from england i know you know what that means, since the head of the united grand lodge of england is the duke of kent.
http://www.grandlodge-england.org/ugle/whos-who.htm

in case you want to read the textbook itself:
http://nofunclub.org/books/moralsanddogmaalbertpike.pdf
the ideas and explanations given to us are often very different than the ones kept by the elite, and many times the things the elite love are very different from what we would think even possible to believe in...

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:42 pm
by Mr Arkadin
gary, i don't disagree with you at all - in fact i think if we had a chat down the pub i might even convince you about the reptiles :wink: However, where we do diverge are on god and guns it seems. To me it seems obvious that if you had no religions to pit against each other and no guns with which to do it then the powers that be would lose their control. Of course this is simplistic - try getting everyone to agree on atheism seems a task in itself, let alone all the spin-off factions you get with Christianity et al.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:31 pm
by braincell
The love of guns comes from the desire to abolish the government.

Some people want to go back to the old days of the wild west with every man for himself and the only aid for the poor being meager rations of bread and soup at the church once a day. The thinking is that they don't like paying any taxes.

Some people want vigilante justice; to be the judge, jury and executioner. It's quicker that way and involves paying less taxes for the bothersome justice system.

Violence always begets more violence.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:19 pm
by garyb
:lol:

that's ridiculous. the founding fathers of this government point out most properly that governments always tend towards despotism. they are not to be trusted. never the less, they are neeeded. still, they can't be trusted. that's the reason for trials by jury and the right to bear arms. only an idiot thinks that the government is 100% full of good people who can be trusted to be helpful. only an idiot leaves everything in a power monger's hands....

don't worry, braincell. Lucifer will soon come to set all of us straight. he'll bring his light, reason and knowledge forth and lead us to a better age. :lol:

stop blindly repeating silly rhetoric without even thinking about what you're saying.

tell me this-if science is really making such great strides so that everyone can live longer, more stisfying lives, why are so many going crazy, mass killing, requiring phsychotropic drugs to get by, and why is EVERYbody getting cancer?

if the people in charge all love us and it's just the republicans, why didn't the democrat controlled congress begin impeachment proceedings against cheney when he stated on friday that he wasn't part of the execuutive branch and that he wasn't answerable to it or to congress, an act of treason? the vice president claimed dictotorial powers in EXACTLY the same way as palpatine in starwars or hitler himself did. if the population is unarmed and congress and the military follow along, who will stop this now that computers make survielance and control child's play? who wants to live in orwell's world or worse?

it's ok, don't worry. kellog brown and root, the subsidiary of halliburton who built death camps for the nazis has contracted out with the federal government to build internment camps in the USA. they can lock up all the dissenters so that you won't have to deal with them. they can throw in the christians for good measure... :lol:
http://www.alternet.org/rights/42458/
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/ ... i/47/17936

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:31 pm
by braincell
I could care less about the founding fathers. They are not relevant. If they could have seen how stupid we became, I think they would have outlawed all weapons.

Watch an episode of American idol and then listen to Paul Potts:

http://talent.itv.com/

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:36 pm
by BingoTheClowno
garyb wrote:
BingoTheClowno wrote:
garyb wrote:do you have a nice clubhouse as well?
because if you do... :wink:
Yup, that's where we take our children to be sodomized.

:lol:
that fits in perfectly with this quote from Albert, i have a statue outside the US
Justice dept building, Pike:
"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view."
:lol:

http://www.cafepress.com/kelleyimages/806578
albert p[ike is buried here: http://www.scottishrite.org/visitors/vtour.html

good old Albert! he founded the KKK... :lol:
You want all atheists lynched so you can go on duping people with lies?
What's the meaning of your post? Are you fond of KKK?

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Do you notice how compassionate and loving are devout in these pictures? Not to mention their morality...

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:14 pm
by manfriday
what exactly are you trying to prove Bingo?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:15 pm
by braincell
I think he's trying to point out the moral values this country was built on.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:01 pm
by garyb
he's talking about the morals of the man who said:
"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view.
A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time." :lol:

he's commenting on my sarcastic remark that this man, who's statue is across from the justice building in washington d.c., who is the man who formed the scottish rite of freemasonry that the duke of kent is the u.k. head is also the man who founded the kkk.

divide and rule
order out of chaos
these are their methods.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:35 am
by BingoTheClowno
You seem to rather enjoy that quote. Do you agree with it?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:17 am
by manfriday
You rather seem to enjoy posting pictures of the KKK.
are they on your bowling league or something?