Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:43 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:59 pm
Hey, who gave you permission to post pictures of sharc & I drinking beer?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:30 pm
32 channels would be greathubird wrote:anyone asked already for more ADAT channels...(32)?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:03 pm
Agreed.firubbi wrote:32 channels would be greathubird wrote:anyone asked already for more ADAT channels...(32)?
32 AES/EBU 192KHz singlewire or
32 ADAT supporting S/MUX4 - equals 8 channels at 192KHz or
MADI interface
As you can see - I would like 192KHz (or even 384Khz as stated in the original dodumentation for Scope when it was released
) sampelrate.Cheers
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:11 pm
I agree 100% with Borg : a trade-in option that helps SC users to get rid of their pci board (and shift to the Xite stuff) ... thanks to a plugin transfer (a 55 euros fee would not bother me too... considering the Xite is a kind of new board). Damn, I am not ready to sell my DSP with so much plugins inside !!!! ..... and a new plugin form Warp69 would help me to decide too ....... 
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:53 am
Definitly ! 
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:55 pm
I believe we should not worry much about. I’m pretty convinced that SC with all the experience they have had through their former company Creamware, have already found out what we need and want.
I’m pretty confident that there will be options to cover “almost” everybody’s needs in terms of hardware as well as software. If you don’t still have a clear picture about the possible connections and the way to mix them up with the software side of things, it is just a matter of time.
I’m convinced that SC have take great care of the product itself, knowing that the only way to stay and win, is doing what we want them to do, i.e., doing what we need to have to make music. I think this system will be, anew, an equivalent of what the first card was down in time to 1999, when a Pulsar card with 4 sharks was seen as the ultimate piece of hardware, sort of a super computer DAW. XSITE-1 will very probably held the same statement sooner or later …
The competence is more aggressive today that it was in those early days. They know, obviously, that today you need to give more, for less. And this is a fact.
They also know that we have grown as musicians, as composers, as mastering engineers, as studios, as producers, as performers, and so forth, so they are giving us a “continuation” of what we already have. I find it PERFECT for myself.
Of course it is a bit expensive, but not if you think what you can do with it… which is, absolutely everything! No more restrictions in polyphony, no more restrictions with effects, particularly with reverbs. Extreme possibilities of rutting and mixing sounds! Forget about the idea of a “big modular”, you could now think about a chain of modular modulars… which is crazy!
The only thing I’m expecting to have, is money to buy it, period.
I insist to those looking at XSITE-1 as a repetition but in a bigger way to the old Scope cards, that this is something different… Here, the massive amount of DSP will give the user possibilities of building things that are not in the pack itself. I explain myself better:
“Having so much DSP it is in a way, like having a whole lot of new plugins, because you can use them without restrictions and in completely new ways”.
I see this product as an absolute winner for most of the Z users for instance, that already have a Creamware card with Scope.
You may say this and that, bla bla, discuss about whatever matter, but I know that after a few weeks of having it in your hands, everybody will start to UNDERSTAND what this tremendous sonic beast means in reality
I’m pretty confident that there will be options to cover “almost” everybody’s needs in terms of hardware as well as software. If you don’t still have a clear picture about the possible connections and the way to mix them up with the software side of things, it is just a matter of time.
I’m convinced that SC have take great care of the product itself, knowing that the only way to stay and win, is doing what we want them to do, i.e., doing what we need to have to make music. I think this system will be, anew, an equivalent of what the first card was down in time to 1999, when a Pulsar card with 4 sharks was seen as the ultimate piece of hardware, sort of a super computer DAW. XSITE-1 will very probably held the same statement sooner or later …
The competence is more aggressive today that it was in those early days. They know, obviously, that today you need to give more, for less. And this is a fact.
They also know that we have grown as musicians, as composers, as mastering engineers, as studios, as producers, as performers, and so forth, so they are giving us a “continuation” of what we already have. I find it PERFECT for myself.
Of course it is a bit expensive, but not if you think what you can do with it… which is, absolutely everything! No more restrictions in polyphony, no more restrictions with effects, particularly with reverbs. Extreme possibilities of rutting and mixing sounds! Forget about the idea of a “big modular”, you could now think about a chain of modular modulars… which is crazy!
The only thing I’m expecting to have, is money to buy it, period.
I insist to those looking at XSITE-1 as a repetition but in a bigger way to the old Scope cards, that this is something different… Here, the massive amount of DSP will give the user possibilities of building things that are not in the pack itself. I explain myself better:
“Having so much DSP it is in a way, like having a whole lot of new plugins, because you can use them without restrictions and in completely new ways”.
I see this product as an absolute winner for most of the Z users for instance, that already have a Creamware card with Scope.
You may say this and that, bla bla, discuss about whatever matter, but I know that after a few weeks of having it in your hands, everybody will start to UNDERSTAND what this tremendous sonic beast means in reality
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:40 pm
I'm hoping SC will realize the TRUE mixing capability of scope and give XCITE a comprehensive ADAT i/o solution.
32 ADAT i/o isnt enough for a studio hub. These days studios farm out to many pcs with soundcards in each.
Scope can bring it all together beautifully. With HQ eq and compression.
I wish for a 1U XTDM breakout box with at least 12 ADAT i/o (ie 96ch i/o) and the ability to add another, or MADI as well.
If SC want to aim at a higher end market, CONSIDERABLY more i/o will make it competitive with an edge.
This would also mean giving ASIO and CoreAudio at least 64 i/o internally as well.
And please dont forget the latest 32 i/o GSIF drivers.
More MIDI i/o on the main box (at least 2, but 4 is better)
And OMS does look really cool.
32 ADAT i/o isnt enough for a studio hub. These days studios farm out to many pcs with soundcards in each.
Scope can bring it all together beautifully. With HQ eq and compression.
I wish for a 1U XTDM breakout box with at least 12 ADAT i/o (ie 96ch i/o) and the ability to add another, or MADI as well.
If SC want to aim at a higher end market, CONSIDERABLY more i/o will make it competitive with an edge.
This would also mean giving ASIO and CoreAudio at least 64 i/o internally as well.
And please dont forget the latest 32 i/o GSIF drivers.
More MIDI i/o on the main box (at least 2, but 4 is better)
And OMS does look really cool.
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:17 am
Hi void,
Celmo's box is a speaker simulation only, unlike Dynatube which is an amp/speaker simulation.
I use Celmo's box to add a little cab sim to my Xotic B-Booster, SansAmp PS1, Thermionic Culture Earlybird, TFPro 38 guitar chain.
Cab sims only sound as good as what goes thro 'em.
ns
None taken. Celmo's box is not really supposed to be used by itself.voidar wrote:No offense, but it's not exactly as realistic as the Dynatube simulations.
Celmo's box is a speaker simulation only, unlike Dynatube which is an amp/speaker simulation.
I use Celmo's box to add a little cab sim to my Xotic B-Booster, SansAmp PS1, Thermionic Culture Earlybird, TFPro 38 guitar chain.
Cab sims only sound as good as what goes thro 'em.
ns
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:27 am
unless we don't know the specs of XTDM it's pure speculation. but I would like to see that interface capable of hooking more I/O, toostardust wrote:My guess is the extension via XTDM
.did anybody ask them at MusikMesse what XTDM will be reall used for?
I kinda remember a statement that chaining two or more XITE was not the goal, but I may be wrong here.
btw, they could think about licensing XTDM to other companies as well. adding focusrite preamps or apogee converters might be tempting for studios with the usual higher budget...
-greetings, markus-
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:08 am
Ah, I see your point now.
The M-Audio ProFire Lightbridge, for example is a 32 i/o ADAT to Firewire device. Which would let you SMUX to 16 i/o at 96KHz. Throwing that kind of box into the same system would probably not work.
So yeah, it would have been nice if they had done 32 i/o ADAT on the Xite-1 instead of the 16 i/o ADAT. But I can live with it. I could see running 2 of the Presonus DigiMax FS boxes into this, for 16-channels of MIC -> ADAT, and just staying in 24-bit, 44.1KHz. Enough for me. I can see that others might want a lot more there.
The M-Audio ProFire Lightbridge, for example is a 32 i/o ADAT to Firewire device. Which would let you SMUX to 16 i/o at 96KHz. Throwing that kind of box into the same system would probably not work.
So yeah, it would have been nice if they had done 32 i/o ADAT on the Xite-1 instead of the 16 i/o ADAT. But I can live with it. I could see running 2 of the Presonus DigiMax FS boxes into this, for 16-channels of MIC -> ADAT, and just staying in 24-bit, 44.1KHz. Enough for me. I can see that others might want a lot more there.
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:56 pm
Uhm some kind of midi CC parameter smoothing plugin. AFAIK something similar is already possible with modular though some simple plugin would be more handy
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:45 am
XTDM also adds a little extra flavour to your deserts.stardust wrote:
Yes it is pure speculation.
1) XTDM is for cascading
2) XTDM is for additional I/O
3) XTDM is for diagnosis and service
my vote is 2
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:09 am
welcome back.hubird wrote:see, so it was you
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:23 am
...and with a cheap additional gadget it will be enabled to fly.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:23 am
I would like to see FX device delivered from B2003 (afaik Interpole is delivered from Minimax filters). Vibrato and rotor are absolutely brilliant. Drive distortion also. Som standalone device, both mono and stereo. Otherwise i must load whole B2003 just to use its own FX via ext in.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:53 am
Probably. I would really like to see it happening. Those FX are really beautiful. I never heard anything capable in VST and i tested really a lot of good ad band plugins. FX from B2003 are really musical in their own way with a lot of nice character. I know that everyone taste is different but to me they are really beautiful sounding effects.stardust wrote: thats interesting and probably easy to do as well.
Maybe SonicCore surprise us
