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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:54 am
by Lima
Hi Marcuspocus, I don't think it's a mistake.
Copied from
http://scope.creamware.de/new_in_version45.htm
:
"For a limited time only we offer to upgrade your existing SCOPE system to the software status of version 4.5 – at the very affordable price of just 98 EUR, no matter which product and which version you have today! "
So,I think that they give you THE upgrade not the whole m'n'm or s'n's package for that price.
Worthy in my opinion

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:22 am
by Bifop
The only question is, how fast does Ralph send the new keys to online buyers ?!!!
Should be within minutes. I just can't wait !!!

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:30 am
by MaoMusique
http://scope.creamware.de/scope_project.htm
Synth pack:
-Minimax
-Pro-12
-B2003
-Modular III
-STS-500 (?)
-Vectron
One other page, same Pack:
http://scope.creamware.de/new_in_version45.htm
-SBC SpectralBalance
-Pro-12
-STM-4896
-MasterVerb Pro
-B2003
-STM-48S
-Poison
(????)
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:44 am
by AndreD
B2003, PRO-12 and MINIMAX are SßS-Pack exclusive, which can be a part of project and is a part of professional.
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:27 am
by bosone
On 2005-12-01 00:58, marcuspocus wrote:
Ok, then, where is your Minimax, which is part of the S&S pack?
And Vectron?
But, i'm pretty amazed that they DID give you 'part' of S&S pack, since you received the key to b2003 and pro12.
I'll look into this more closely... Is this a mistake from cw? A bug in the online system?
If it is, i'll RUN to buy this S&S pack
i have no vectron activated, and for minimax, i owned previoulsy, and i have only one key for it (instead the 2 keys for sts4000, for example, or mixpack1), so i suppose it is not included.
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:40 am
by huffcw
This whole thing is so confusing. I wish they would have based what upgrade you get on whether you have no packs, just S&S, just M&M or both packs - rather than basing it on the board you own. That would have made everything easier.
Also, the Creamware web site says that Modular III is included in the Scope Home updgrade - but no key received. The site reads:
"Also, some of the synth highlights that were previously contained in the Synth’n’Sampler pack are now part of the SCOPE home package: welcome the fun-loaded SB-404 and the groovy EDS-16i! Further new arrivals in the synth category are the Poison and the <b>Modular III</b> monster modular. With version 4.5, SCOPE home now features very advanced synth capabilities. While SCOPE home does not provide the DSP performance to use many synth plugins at the same time, it still allows you to explore new sounds and record synth voices in your multitrack environment."
<b>It's a nice package even without Modular III - but their web site shouldn't say you are going to get it if you purchase the upgrade - and then you do not receive it. It's upsetting.</b>
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:57 am
by Me$$iah
I so agree with much of what has been said here. Im like really intersted in buying this upgrade, but I have no idea which one would be the best for me to buy. I am also confused as to what I would be buying with each version. I own a ScopeHome and a Pulsar2.
Tho I got till the end of Jan to decide, so if everyone who buys in the meantime posts what they recieved,..then Ill like use this info in my descision making.....hehe
Me$$iah
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:21 am
by bosone
i think the site is misleading in this sense:
the NEW buyess of home/prject boards will receive a particular software package, but this package will be DIFFERENT from the one that older users will receive with the upgrade... (this is my interpreation!!!)
i agree that things are not clear... anyway i could resist to do my upgrade!!
to further clarify:
i PREVIOULSY owned:
mix pack1, modular2,3 sts3000/4000, minimax, optimaster, psyQ
(NO propack!!!)
NOW, after synth/sampler upgrade, i have the key also for:
b2003, pro12, sb404, masterverb pro, SBC, mixpack2 (stm4896+meterbridge), FX pack2 (the one with pattern delay, softclip, etc), EDS 16i, Poison FM
so, at least, ou will receive these...
according to me is a great deal for 98 euro...
b2003 is wonderful, as well as masterverb pro. i didnt tested deeply the pro12 and the other synths/fx yet...
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:22 am
by Counterparts
I've written to Creamware now for some clarification as I have quite a number of the synths & FX which come with v4.5 already so am not sure of "what's in it for me".
I'll post back if & when I get a response!
Royston
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:32 am
by replicant
Glad to find I'm not the only one confused by this. This must be the most complicated upgrade offer ever offered.
I've written to the info address yesterday but haven't received any reply or statement, hopefully things will get clarified during the coming weeks, but they sure could have made this a lot easier to grasp...
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:39 am
by ChampionSound
Same question for me. I have a Pulsar2 + 6 DSP SRB without S'n'S or M'n'M pack.
I read some pages back that I have to use the Scope Home upgrade option,
if I decide to upgrade (Probably I will). Cool, because I still don't have the extra plugs offered in the new upgrade. (modIII???, EDS-16i, STM4896, SBC...) But since I don't have a scope home card, I want to be sure that there are no disadvantages using this with the rest of my plugs..
So it would be nice if the website shows more scenario's for the different cards with or without the plugin bundles, like Scope Project
without a S'n'S or M'n'M pack, that would make it more clear and less confusing.
Anyway, I have nothing to complain and I find this a nice christmas gift for the users who don't have a lot of extra plugins yet

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:46 am
by bosone
dear championsound... i feel that you can upgrade either with S&S OR the M&M scope project without problems!
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:56 am
by ChampionSound
Thanks Bosone,
I just read your post that you did the same thing...
I'll upgrade in a week or so

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:01 am
by Bifop
Bosone, how long did it took them to send you the keyfile ?
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:07 am
by zentropa
bought upgrade yesterday........still waiting for the keys.........
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:08 am
by bosone
On 2005-12-01 08:01, Bifop wrote:
Bosone, how long did it took them to send you the keyfile ?
ordered in the morning, installed in the evening!!

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:21 am
by Bifop
On 2005-12-01 08:08, bosone wrote:
On 2005-12-01 08:01, Bifop wrote:
Bosone, how long did it took them to send you the keyfile ?
ordered in the morning, installed in the evening!!
Lucky b*!#?rd !!
Ordered yesterday. Waiting today.
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:54 am
by erminardi
I'm still waiting from 2 days... Creamware has a hard work to finish off =)
I cannot wait any more!!! =) =) =)
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:19 am
by Me$$iah
Ive not emailed creamware yet to ask about the variations....I figure theyve got enough traffik to deal with at the mo...Ill just wait till someone posts info here
cool ..Ilove this site
Me$$iah
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:20 am
by Bifop
excerpt from the 4.5 form :
... and SHORTLY after the purchase transaction we will send you the referring Activation Key for your SCOPE system via email.
Clever guys, they didn't indicate any time frame to deliver the keys... It can take as long as they want now.
