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Posted: **Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:08 am**

On 2005-12-04 10:32, powerpulsarian wrote:
Their site also clearly says upgrading to Home v4.5 will include Modular III - but it doesn't because they didn't send that key. I bought the updgrade thinking for sure Modular III was included (I was going to get Modular III, but spent my money on this instead thinking I would get it and more). But now I don't have Modular III.

Here's the text that says I should have received Modular III (third paragraph under "What is New in SCOPE home"):

Also, some of the synth highlights that were previously contained in the Synth’n’Sampler pack are now part of the SCOPE home package: welcome the fun-loaded SB-404 and the groovy EDS-16i! Further new arrivals in the synth category are the Poison and the Modular III monster modular. With version 4.5, SCOPE home now features very advanced synth capabilities. 

[ This Message was edited by: powerpulsarian on 2005-12-04 10:34 ]

Hi Powerpulsarian!

Send them a mail and ask for them to send you the missing key. If they refuse to do that, have them explain why not. At least, I'm rely curious to hear that answer, and I think there are more curious ones out there.

Mattias

[ This Message was edited by: mashen on 2005-12-04 11:14 ]

Posted: **Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:10 am**

Yes - I sent an email, but I didn't get a response.

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:15 am**

Just got the keys for the M&M pack. Eminardi, maybe you've just been lucky or they changed their mind on the way.
Absolutely no trace of a Vinco, Psy Q or Optimaster. Just the same devices I've got with the S&S upgrade and the Interpole (wich I don't need/want).
Be warned guys ! Don't buy this unless this is absolutely what you wan't (half a real M&M pack).
Compared to S&S upgrade, this one is a very, very bad buy.

We needed somebody taking the risk here guys. I'm sorry it's been me.
I think it has tamed my enthusiasm, to say the least.

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:36 am**

And I just received the keys for the S&S pack in my mailbox.

Luckily for me, I haven't had any bundles yet so for me it's a real bargain.
Now I have the Pro-12, B-2003, SB404, EDS-16i, Masterverb Pro and SBC added to my scope arsenal! I already owned the Poison synth.

I understand that I can download the "new" scope 4.5 software from the given ftp site.
But I also received a link to the alkeys page where all my devices are shown in a list. This is a text file. Shouldn't this be a allkeys.skf file, which must be imported when I do a fresh install for 4.5?

Or should I save the hassle and only install the new devices with OXE in SFP 4.0?

Thanks guys

*edit*
As you all probably know, the "my page" section is down on de CWA site, so I can't download my new allkeys.skf from there...

[ This Message was edited by: ChampionSound on 2005-12-05 02:39 ]

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:44 am**

Copy the page on a text file renamed to ALLKEYS.SKF (allow show known extension on the explorer to be able to edit the *.skf extension).

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:52 am**

Thanks for your help Bifop, I only had to make a text file indeed.

I'll try to install 4.5 in a couple of hours, and I'll see what happens...

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[ This Message was edited by: championsound on 2005-12-05 08:47 ]

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:43 am**

the filename and extension don't matter - it imports anything it can read from any textfile.
I usually copy the scope.rgy from the application folder (that file is what the system uses) to the top of my HD to import for a new installation.

You just need a list of your new keys on screen, then copy paste them to some file on your disk. Of course the key may have to be generated first.

cheers, tom

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:48 am**

On 2005-12-05 02:15, Bifop wrote:
Just got the keys for the M&M pack. Eminardi, maybe you've just been lucky or they changed their mind on the way.
Absolutely no trace of a Vinco, Psy Q or Optimaster. Just the same devices I've got with the S&S upgrade and the Interpole (wich I don't need/want).
Be warned guys ! Don't buy this unless this is absolutely what you wan't (half a real M&M pack).
Compared to S&S upgrade, this one is a very, very bad buy.

We needed somebody taking the risk here guys. I'm sorry it's been me.
I think it has tamed my enthusiasm, to say the least.

Bifop, I'm so sorry for your unhappy update!!!

But, I really don't know why I've received all M'n'M pack!!!

Just Yesterday I've experiment with my new Optimaster, this is a proof that, for me, it's real!
Maybe, (I repeat one of my previous reply of saturnday), maybe the old owner of my Pulsar II (is a second hand buy) had a hidden or unactivated M'n'M pack...
Who knows.
Sorry, sorry sorry to all people!!!
Sincerely...

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:04 am**

i still don't know what to think about this upgrade and i cannot explain creamware policy on this.

on my S&S upgrade from my pulsar1, without owning propack, i received exactly what was stated in
http://scope.creamware.de/new_in_scope_project%20_b.htm

"New Software Features in SCOPE project v4.5 with Synth’n’Sampler Pack"
SBC SpectralBalance
Pro-12
STM-4896
MasterVerb Pro
B2003
STM-48S
Poison

PLUS, i have SB404 and ESDi16, as stated in

"Also the synthesis side of the package receives a significant upgrade. Some of the synth highlights that were previously only contained in the Synth’n’Sampler pack are now part of every SCOPE project package: welcome the wavemorphing Vectron, the fun-loaded SB-404 and the groovy EDS-16i! Another new arrival with the new SCOPE project package is the wild sounding Poison."

BUT i see no vectron

the silence from creamware is puzzling...

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:19 am**

Kind of a game: they want to know how clever we are!

The winner (who have the right algorithm) will be entitled for a FREE 4.5 to 4.5 Upgrade

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:25 am**

On 2005-12-03 14:09, Stige wrote:
I'm sorry, but this is a bit funny

Lots of debating and confusion, and not a single word from creamware to make this all clear. Neither is too clear their website.

I can recall, it was the same when scope 4.0 came out.

What I personally believe, 98 euros entitles old users to:

SBC SpectralBalance
Pro-12
STM-4896
MasterVerb Pro
B2003
STM-48S
Poison

OR:

SBC Spectral Balance Controller
VDAT
SB-404
Interpole
EDS-16i
Poison

Regardless what they previously own.

I believe this is pretty much accurate, although I think you get Masterverb pro in both upgrades. (I have a Pulsar 1 woth no packs, selected the M&M upgrade and got Masterverb Pro and Interpole as the main new devices) So the correct list would become:

SBC SpectralBalance
Pro-12
STM-4896
MasterVerb Pro
B2003
STM-48S
Poison

OR:

SBC Spectral Balance Controller
VDAT
SB-404
Interpole
EDS-16i
Poison
Masterverb Pro

[ This Message was edited by: King of Snake on 2005-12-05 07:29 ]

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:42 am**

Hey Antar, I didn't see Interpole on that original list. Is it actually included now with M&M or on its own? With what systems is it included?

Thanks!

Shayne

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[ This Message was edited by: Shayne White on 2005-12-05 09:42 ]

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:17 am**

Hmm.. For someone like myself who doesn't have any commercial plug-ins for my Pulsar II (except Optimaster & Poison which came with the card), maybe it's worth it to wait until the new S&S pack is available for sale separately. JRRShop sells the current S&S pack for $350. If they keep the price the same, I could potentially buy Minimax, Vectron, Modular III, Pro-12, B-2003, STS-4000, STS-5000, SBC, ESD16i, SB-404, and Poison for only $350! Now that's a good deal!

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:33 am**

depends on your definition of 'clever'

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:50 am**

Stardust

You'll know if you get a free 4.5 to 4.5 upgrade

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:43 pm**

[quote]
On 2005-12-05 09:42, Shayne White wrote:
Hey Antar, I didn't see Interpole on that original list. Is it actually included now with M&M or on its own? With what systems is it included?

Shayne:

Emailed CW on Friday and got the answer this afternoon

I was told they are still working on the new site, It is NOT done and there are lots of fixing to be done. I was asked to have more patience and allow them more time to finish the new site.

** Mod III is NOT part of Scope Home 4.5 this will be fixed in a day or 2

** Interpole IS part of the New MnM this will be added to the website as now it show up under OPTIONAL Plugins and that is why this device did not make my first post until CW confirmed it.

[ This Message was edited by: antar on 2005-12-05 13:46 ]

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:06 pm**

Did they confirm whether the 4.5 OS is supposed to be free or not?

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:03 pm**

..................................... Not yet

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:32 pm**

On 2005-12-05 06:48, erminardi wrote:

Bifop, I'm so sorry for your unhappy update!!!
But, I really don't know why I've received all M'n'M pack!!!
Just Yesterday I've experiment with my new Optimaster, this is a proof that, for me, it's real!
Maybe, (I repeat one of my previous reply of saturnday), maybe the old owner of my Pulsar II (is a second hand buy) had a hidden or unactivated M'n'M pack...
Who knows.
Sorry, sorry sorry to all people!!!
Sincerely...

Don't be sorry, everything is okay ! Still love my Pulsar and my new Synths devices.

I hope Creamware will do another round of promo pack later on so everybody could get a hold on some missing device in the collection for a "friendly" price.

Now Creamware with the 4.5 money, could you please do a nice little 5.0...

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:04 pm**

De ja vu

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