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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:09 am
by symbiote
Agreed that a big multiple-speakers setup would be pretty fun, I was just pointing out (or in?) that it wasn't *ideal* =P.

As for Creamware synths being ignored, I'm sure Minimax has gotten some rave reviews, but personally I don't mind too much, as I tend to make my own presets, and I prefer to keep my secret weapon secret :grin: And we still have some pretty nice quality preset makers around, even if they're not "big names", I don't mind if it sounds good.

Also, it's still entirely possible to use VSTis with a Creamware setup, it's not like you are forced to use only Creamware plugins.

Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 2:48 pm
by astroman
On 2005-05-17 11:24, geoffd99 wrote:
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All I'm saying here is, the virtual model of trad studio and synths which Creamware use, leaves the fun element out, as everything is conceptually based on the old designs.
See how GForce have added to the Minimoog spec, rather than emulating it exactly.
...
maybe it's because I'm old fashioned and favour the same sound as Darkrezin (60/70s Jazz and Funk - and I'm a passionate hunter for mint vinyls from that time), but SFP is entirely fun for me just because of that trad model.

It's so much more convenient and allows you to quickly setup any idea - your multi-speaker setup would be easy with an A16 for output and even allow custom cross-overs for speakers and signal time compensation.

A current example from my (cheapo) bass:
I stripped all the passive parts and connected the 2 pickups to a stereo plug going directly into the A16.
They arrive in SFP on 2 Adat channels, first device is the chain is 'PhaseFix', then Wavelength Mixmaster, then Celmo' BassAmpModeller.

The PhaseFix allows to sub-millisecond time adjust the 2 pickups, which should be more or less equal to modify their position on the instrument.
The Mixmaster is a small DJ-type mixer that can crossfade between the the 2 pickups with separate level and eq adjustment for each one.

This was an idea setup in ten minutes and it gives me a great flexibility to tune the instrument's sound, and I've already found a couple of other devices to replace the BassAmp for yet a different spectrum :grin:
Which other system is capable of such a straight forward approach ?

Honestly, if you complain about old fashioned - then that Moog emulation is it for shure.
My Yamaha DX200 does the exact same preset morphing based on midi data... :razz:
in fact I've used it to play the Mini demo by feeding it the synth and controller data of the Yamaha presets - which was really fun - as the result was not predictable at all, yet useful in many cases :grin:

cheers, Tom

Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 5:52 pm
by hubird
you freak :grin: :lol:

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:36 am
by titodave
i´m a recently new user of sfp. i sold my 002 because the only think is good is the compatibility"
fuck sound and sound
fuck future music
and fuck digidesign!

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:01 am
by Mr Arkadin
Well you're obviously very passionate about SCOPE titodave (which is good), however we're generally a little more reserved with colourful language round these parts. Let's not turn into KVR :wink:

Regards,
Mr Arkadin.

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:37 pm
by titodave
ok.
ok.
ok.

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:48 pm
by titodave
(i´m 14 years old and my hormones...)

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 3:02 pm
by geoffd99
Hey 14 yr olds earn a lot these days... that must be a big paper round... welcome to Scope and its fun forum.

I agree about mixing VST synths and Scope - I do it all the time. I might get those Native Instruments things later when I have more time to play with them.

I have just spent a day mixing on a Protools system, through an Audient Sumo, and it sounded great - the Sumo that is, as the outputs from the audio sequencer (which could have been Protools, Sonar, Cubase, Live etc) were sent into it (it does 16 analog ins).

http://www.proaudiodesign.com/productin ... mID=P30039

This Sumo sounds great! Much clearer than the original Creamware or the Protools (this was easy to check with a-b using bypass button).

Although it is much more useful to have a person mixing (and arranging) for you, who is an expert, that try and do it yourself, so I am not about to buy one.

Does anyone else out there use an analogue mixer to sum output tracks (usually submixes of drums, basses, synths, vox etc). Comments welcome.

Or is this too boutique?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 3:13 pm
by garyb
i can, i just don't usually bother. just like cwa and vsts, cwa and analog summing are not mutually exclusive.

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:28 pm
by geoffd99
I was not suggesting they are mutually exclusive!

I hereby bow out of this thread. Byee!