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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:35 pm
by hifiboom
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:08 am
by braincell
It's relevant Kensuguro because the republicans have been blocking health care while they emphasize how christian they are. As you witness in this group they don't want the government to help anyone. They want all charity to come from the church so they can push jesus on us. Christians want to kill not heal. I'm not kidding look how pro-death penalty they are.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:34 am
by manfriday
republicans have been blocking health care while they emphasize how christian they are.
That is because they, along with a bunch of Democrats, are smart enough to know how foolish it would be to nationalize heath care insurance.
Christians want to kill not heal.
Both a gross generalization and a distortion of truth. You have a talent for these things!
I'm not kidding look how pro-death penalty they are.
again, a gross generalization. Ask the catholic church their feelings on the death penalty.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:57 am
by braincell
From what Kensuguro says, national health care is way better in Japan than our sorry pathetic system. You like it the way it is? What is your answer to the 47 million with no insurance? You want them to die?
Insurance is set up to make money for stock holders. If you are too sick, they drop you. They don't care about us Ok? And medicine is way too expensive. The Japanese don't even think about it. Hey wouldn't that be nice? You don't want that? What is your problem??????
Kensuguro,
I am sorry but something is wrong with these selfish americans. It's disgusting to me and I am ashamed to be a citizen when there are so many people who don't care about others unless they can get a tax break for donating to jesus.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:51 am
by manfriday
You like it the way it is? What is your answer to the 47 million with no insurance? You want them to die?
First of all, that is not a rational argument. Just because 47 million people do not have heath issurance does'nt mean they are all going to die.. at least not from lack of health care..
Second, no I hate the way it is. I mean I reaaaaaaly hate it.
I went for YEARS without health care insurance. I have it now, but the hoops those bastards make you jump thru is unbelievable.
My wife and I had to fight tooth and nail to get my little boy growth hormone treatment, because he has pituitary dwarfism.
If we had nationalized healthcare, I believe it would have been even more difficult to get him his medicine. If you want to make things easier, you certainly dont want to involve the Government.
As for what to do to make it better, I'd have to say the first thing we need to do is get some changes made to our legal system. No more idiots suing the drycleaners for 52 million dollars for a pair of lost pants.
No more doctors careers ended because of a mistake.
Part of the problem is the astronomical cost to a doctor to do buisiness.. or as our beloved President would say.. 'to practice their love'
If you are too sick, they drop you
That is not true. I mean, you might find some antecdotal evidence here or there to support your hatred of the heath care insurance providers as a whole, but even though I cant stand my health care provider, and even though they are a pain to deal with..
They have not dropped me or my family when my boy was diagnosed with his issues.
And medicine is way too expensive.
yes, I agree with you it is. a 1 month supply of my sons medcine is 1200 bucks.
That's almost 1 scope card EVERY MONTH!
The Japanese don't even think about it. Hey wouldn't that be nice? You don't want that? What is your problem??????
My problem is that I don't look for the government to pay for all my problems.
I don't like Government programs, because they tend to be expensive and inefficient.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:17 am
by garyb
yeah, the reason medicine is so expensive is that companies are allowed to recoup their developement costs even though the government granted the money for developement.
you want to really fix health costs? eliminate insurance and the idea that doctors should make more money than trashmen(you think you'd rather have doctors, but you can live and die without being "practiced" on, no problem, but a couple of weeks without the trashman.....)
really, braincell, you are mistaken about the republicrats being different than the democans. those guys have really messed with your head. don't you know that behind the scenes they all belong to the same private clubs and that the laugh at your gullibility?
and what about hitchins being a two faced warmonger? what a hypocrite he is! he blames religion for wars and killing, then he calls for this iraq bloodbath. haha.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:44 am
by BingoTheClowno
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:14 pm
by BingoTheClowno
garyb wrote:yeah, the reason medicine is so expensive is that companies are allowed to recoup their developement costs even though the government granted the money for developement.
you want to really fix health costs? eliminate insurance and the idea that doctors should make more money than trashmen(you think you'd rather have doctors, but you can live and die without being "practiced" on, no problem, but a couple of weeks without the trashman.....)
really, braincell, you are mistaken about the republicrats being different than the democans. those guys have really messed with your head. don't you know that behind the scenes they all belong to the same private clubs and that the laugh at your gullibility?
and what about hitchins being a two faced warmonger? what a hypocrite he is! he blames religion for wars and killing, then he calls for this iraq bloodbath. haha.


Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:39 pm
by manfriday
I'm glad you got the joke Bingo.
But it's a shame you couldn't come up with a better response for Gary.
heh.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:49 pm
by BingoTheClowno
stardust wrote:
Still no clue what the real offer of atheistic world view to this world will be.
Well, one without gods and lies. That wasn't that hard was it?
Thanks for coming back. We miss your self-righteousness.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:04 pm
by BingoTheClowno
stardust wrote:BingoTheClowno wrote:stardust wrote:
Still no clue what the real offer of atheistic world view to this world will be.
Well, one without gods and lies. That wasn't that hard was it?
No god ? ok, why not.
Because none exist, thus the lies.
Stardust wrote:
Good point, maybe the nobrainer level is the reason for the irrelevance .
Whose?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:17 pm
by BingoTheClowno
Stardust wrote:
Good point, maybe the nobrainer level is the reason for the irrelevance .
Bingo wrote:
Whose?
stardust wrote:ehmmm yours.
Insult!
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:28 pm
by BingoTheClowno
Appology accepted.
stardust wrote:
I take from a complex system like The World or The Mankind or The Society one piece away, like the 'believe in god' and ....woooosh...All evil is gone.
What do you mean, it sounds like an infantile fantasy.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:43 pm
by hubird
simple, it says that he daubts if taking that religion element out of world's reality, would make the world any better.
you could write a library on that subject I guess

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:52 pm
by BingoTheClowno
Why not? Do you think people can only be good if they have a god to fear?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:29 pm
by hubird
you just started the library

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:25 am
by BingoTheClowno
Meanwhile president Bush is preparing to veto for the third time a bill that would have eased restrictions on embrionic stem cell research.
Yahoo wrote:
"This is just one example of how the president puts ideology before science, politics before the needs of our families, just one more example of how out of touch with reality he and his party have become," Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., told the Take Back America conference of liberal activists Wednesday.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:30 am
by garyb
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:31 am
by BingoTheClowno
Your spiritual leaders are pederasts.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:05 pm
by braincell
Dole saw the light on stem cell research, too bad the other republicans did not.
So far I have not seen one single post in this thread claiming there is a god.