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Garyb, I agree with you 100%, but my point was that we need to keep these cartoons etc off Planet Z. Why not just link to them? There's absolutely no need to provoke things any further (as the powers that be would just love)
here on Planet Z, as it's potentially dangerous to do so.

Hey if you don't want Planet Z to exist past Xmas, just carry posting these sorts of cartoons. Big brother will no doubt have a swipe at us with his other hand some time soon.

On 2006-02-19 08:01, darkrezin wrote:
That attitude is just fucking sad, guys. And really really really lame.

It's like saying Christianity is nothing but sick paedophiles and abortion-doctor killers.

Think about it.

Get over your stupidity and ignorance.

darkrezin, explain me this:

- In Egypt, these drawings were pulicized in the large national papers a couple of months ago. Yet it didnt catch much pulicity. I would imagine it should if the regular muslim really cared that much.

and darkrezin, how do u say it is foolish to compare a 2000 year old buddah statue to a frigging cartoon?



I DO hope that you have noticed that the demonstrations against this episode has had a much bigger poøitical reason than any other.

On 2006-02-19 08:03, darkrezin wrote:
Oh and Spirit, you really must be a simple man to find that funny.

No sense of humour Darkrezin ? Not even of irony ? Now who does that remind me of...

............ 'Hm, let's see what the Koran says about it...'

On 2006-02-19 15:36, piddi wrote:
I DO hope that you have noticed that the demonstrations against this episode has had a much bigger poøitical reason than any other.

Of course, but for some reason there's guys here who are knowingly continuing this political farse. It's the guys posting MORE stupid religious cartoons of a particular flavour who are fueling the fire. Shit, infact it's as if Zer & Spirit are the ones throwing the molotov coctails .... onto a burning fire started by war mongers. Only thing is, they brought the burning fire onto PlanetZ's doorstep before throwing their arsenel of molotovs onto it .. doh. as homor simpson would say

sorry for being out of molotow...It`s probably because iran stopped the oil delivery

Strange yet, that fanatism, I mean they easily take the risk to get shot during a demonstration, as the news shows these days.
I would die for freedom, or say a woman, or maybe for mony, but definitely not for relegion.

Don't take offense Zer, there's always room for a new tangent on this thread. If your preference is for black humour why not dig up some nice cartoons of burning bibles & some jokes about bible thumping & lets see the PlanetZ reaction to that flavour.

yeah I`d do so...but however - I didn`t find a funny pic of those, lately...

Keeping with the topic, a few years ago Kraft Dinner had a contest, where you were to draw yourself eating Kraft Dinner and you might get your drawing printed on the box. This is a drawing that didn't win the contest...



Hope no one is offended...

change 'craft dinner' on the box by 'Kor*n', give that to an Imam, and wait the news...

thou shall not insult my food

already done that before



We didn`t teach them that, did we Jesus?

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,575837,00.jpg

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who's the german guy standing by the lightbulb?

a soprano?

and now some completely different.

Absolutely lunatic.

http://dl4.dumpalink.com/media/NCUcN2hf ... sXfPvb.wmv

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THAT's the point Dark - and that's what gets me on rage and even people who originally condemned the Iraqui war.

I will NEVER accept that these folks will have ANY influence on my life at all and NOT A SINGLE ONE running around burning flags is considered to have even the slightest political rights in my very humble opinion - it's the mob and nothing but the mob.

Astro, I know you're a good guy. But what you're saying is totally fucking patronizing to the rest of the world. You see, the rest of the world has to take it up the ass because of people in the west. Whether it's the USA's latest war, or simply the relentless march of globalist capitalism.

So to say that these people are scum for daring to affect your life is pretty damn condescending and shows that none of us appreciate the suffering that western capitalism causes.

Anyway, to get back to the cartoon theme:

http://ravve.peili.org/orwell_man.jpg

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On 2006-02-19 15:36, piddi wrote:

darkrezin, explain me this:

- In Egypt, these drawings were pulicized in the large national papers a couple of months ago. Yet it didnt catch much pulicity. I would imagine it should if the regular muslim really cared that much.

and darkrezin, how do u say it is foolish to compare a 2000 year old buddah statue to a frigging cartoon?



I DO hope that you have noticed that the demonstrations against this episode has had a much bigger poøitical reason than any other.

Regarding the Egypt thing - I cannot comment, as I have not read any reports about this.

About the statues: you just don't get the point I'm making do you? It was a few Taliban extremists in Afghanistan destroying statues. The Taliban don't represent the whole of Islam, just like an abortion-doctor-killer does not represent the whole of Christianity.

On 2006-02-25 08:27, darkrezin wrote:
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Astro, I know you're a good guy. But what you're saying is totally fucking patronizing to the rest of the world. You see, the rest of the world has to take it up the ass because of people in the west. Whether it's the USA's latest war, or simply the relentless march of globalist capitalism.
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well, it's not easy to express, but you probably got the 'reflective character' of my quote.
I can assure you that the very same person who commented the invasion of Iraq with '... any Iraqui is as human as we are, so wtf is there a need to start a war ? ...' had not the slightest comprehension for those cartoon riots '... who are they to tell (or even threaten) us ?...'

imho that's a completely different point and it has few if anything at all to do with so-called achievements of western civilization.

Mind you, the first thing those folks do when they get the chance to make 'their fortune' is to buy a Mercedes Benz - and they are proud of it.

There IS in fact a lot to critizize at a value-growth based economy (like we have it in germany), but first that's a different story and second it's the least concern of those 'poor ones' who want to make their way out of poverty.
If you ask around you'll find 90% would choose exactly THAT way if they get the opportunity (and/or choice).

When I made a trip through an Arabic country after highschool I felt generally welcome, frequently invited probably for just being 'exotic' - but there also were numerous(!) requests to be at help for someone to get a job in Germany.
Ok, that a few years back in time, but considering last years excesses at the Spanish/Maroc border the situation looks even enforced.

yet NOTHING of that is related to any prophet at all and I guess that even people who respect their religious tradition are quickly allowing an 'exception' if it's for their personal advantage. There are few to no moralists out there - except in those schools where they preach hate and try to play god.

I'm absolutely serious that I have not a single bit of tolerance in that context - I'd get them out of the country within not even one month.

We DO HAVE laws that declare it a crime what fundamentalism preaches, as we have laws against certain symbols of the German past.
I admit that in both cases they are not applied as they are supposed to...

cheers, Tom

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