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Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:12 am
by tlaskows
Yes, choices are good. I choose Scope, because it's different
-Tom
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:21 am
by tlaskows
I just prefer to stick with companies that care about their customers. Small companies, like S|C. Come on, you guys still have software that runs on the original cards from 1997! No one else would do that! Oh, and the cards are still ticking away, not dead
-Tom
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:00 am
by hubird
You're right Nestor, it wasn't 'helping'.
One important reason was, M$ needs the competition, to avoid measures against a monopoly situation.
We discussed that already by the way in a thread about the tv interview Jobs/Gates

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:10 am
by tlaskows
We are making rich men even richer by paying for their software/hardware. There is a new movie called "Steve Jobs" that should be out very soon. It looks at Steve in a different way than what everyone thinks he is... I will probably see it.
-Tom
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:12 am
by hubird
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:51 am
by Nestor
hubird wrote:You're right Nestor, it wasn't 'helping'.
One important reason was, M$ needs the competition, to avoid measures against a monopoly situation.
We discussed that already by the way in a thread about the tv interview Jobs/Gates

Sure, I so this interview long ago...
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:51 am
by Nestor
garyb wrote:people like choices.
all roads lead to Rome.
Yeah, we all go there..., but when Bill Gates went to Rome, he went to the "Club of Rome"... We all may go to Rome but not to the same one...

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:56 pm
by braincell
I can overclock but I do not have a water cooler. I do have a special large heatsink. I'm a little worried about the risk. That is why I never tied it plus I am pretty happy with my performance. It's an i7 but an older, slower one.
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:37 am
by tlaskows
You're gonna need a water cooler and an unlocked chip. It's practically impossible to do it with a locked chip, because you're raising the bus frequency and it screws up the timings of all other things. If you're satisfied with the performance, don't worry about it! Just stay stock. I am doing this just as an experiment in my spare time.
Oh yeah, 48 hours stable with Vcore 1.35 at 4.6Ghz. 4770k. I'm gonna run it for a few more days maybe
-Tom
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:38 am
by tlaskows
I think she's stable, guys. I had to stop it cause I sold an UAD-2 Duo card to free up a slot for the MIDI plate I'm making for Scope Pro. Yes, all my slots are taken up
Here are some pictures:
Now time to start optimizing for audio. It's a fresh install, so it shouldn't be too hard.
Enjoy and good luck whether you OC or not
-Tom
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:07 am
by Nestor
It feels like a lot of fun, that's for sure...

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:14 am
by tlaskows
Yeah, it is. I am reinstalling all the Scope plugins that I own and all the VSTs. A whole lot of fun! But at least my computer is clean now
I only run at 44.1k and it's usually pretty stable.
-Tom
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:55 am
by dawman
I buy "locked" chips and bump them from 3.4 to 3.8/4.0.
This kicks up the bandwidth on the CPUs cache.
80GBps goes to 100GBps (duplexxed).
Got the Xeon with Iris Pro and 128MB L4 cache.
Noticed I could only run a few Native time based FX before the
CPU cores started spiking randomly.
Now theres no spikes.
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:59 am
by tlaskows
Yeah, I don't think you can get unlocked Xeons

Those are server processors.
I can change the cache ratio on my unlocked chip, but I won't since it seems to be pretty stable right now. Don't mess with a good thing, this thing is already 1.1GHz over stock! The Diva is loving it! DSP is still the best though...
-Tom
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:13 am
by dawman
Even on my i7 3770S or i7 4790S versions that were locked I took them to 4GHz no sweat.....

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:52 am
by tlaskows
On air? I doubt that would be OCCT linkpack 64 bit stable...
-Tom
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:43 am
by dawman
Well its 64bit Rock & Roll stable.
I use 4 x 22k supermicro duallys and a Dynatron 1U HSF.
My 1U is as loud as a vacuum cleaner.
Case temps 31C. CPU Temps 39C.
Outdoor gigs in 105 degrees this summer caused a reboot once.
Since then I added the 3rd and 4th 22k fans.
Never run gamer toture tests or anything.
If it takes my workflow for 48 hours its stage ready for me.
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:49 am
by tlaskows
Good point. But I wanted my computer to be quiet, so my fans are at the most at 50% speed and I can slow them down even more. I'm using huge fans! The noisiest fan in my desktop is the tiny whiny fan on the Quadro FX 1700. I realize that you cannot water cool a 1U rack case. You can barely fit a computer in there! But you do live gigging, I just jam at home when I'm bored
-Tom
Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:12 pm
by dawman
We actually have way more hardware power than we can use.
While gamers push forward development for fps us audio guys dont have enough clout to make DAW developers make thier own OS or at least streamline ASIO.
My latest NVMe rig reveals the same ASIO deficiencies as I experienced using cheap ass MX100 SSDs.
ASIO craps out after so many MIDI tracks with real time overdubs.
So I go buy a pair of Intel 750s.
Same problems.
So I end up with 50% of RAM used.
40% of CPU.
25% of memoery sub system bandwidth.
30% of DSP.
Scope DSP is the only hardware left I can push harder.
ASIO can run at its maximum using the cheapest RAM cheapest SSDs and
an i5 CPU instead of the i7s.
My next build will be incredible cheap.
Lessons after wasting a few large.......

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:14 pm
by hubird