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Re: suggest me a virtual midi cable...

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:41 pm
by Bud Weiser
jksuperstar wrote:and/or if MIDI OX had direct CopperLAN support built in ;)
Well, I´m not so uber-happy w/ MIDIOX, especially because it crashes SCOPE 5.1 w/ XITE when I forget to close SCOPE before I close MIDIOX.
I also find it CPU intensive when creating a lot of connections in MIDIOX because each 2 ports create a new driver.
It´s the, for me, only solution for the time being,- but I´d like to get rid of it too.

For the others using Copperlan here,- which ethernet switches are you using ?
Managed or unmanaged ones ?
I think of Netgear ProSave GS-108E, unmanaged, stackable
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Ne ... E/837106/?

or the larger GS-116E
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Ne ... E/837112/?

Does "stackable" mean I could cascade 2 of these,- beginning w/ a 8 port and it expansion is needed buy another one and connect ?
I might run out of ports soon, depending on count of devices retrofitted w/ Alyseum ALeX.


Bud

Re: suggest me a virtual midi cable...

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:09 pm
by dante
Bud Weiser wrote:Well, I´m not so uber-happy w/ MIDIOX, especially because it crashes SCOPE 5.1 w/ XITE when I forget to close SCOPE before I close MIDIOX. Bud
You can work around that by re-opening Scope THEN close MIDIOX :lol: :lol: works for me.

Re: suggest me a virtual midi cable...

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:18 pm
by Bud Weiser
dante wrote: You can work around that by re-opening Scope THEN close MIDIOX :lol: :lol: works for me.
Yeah,- but I´m tired of the word "workaround" !!!!!
That´s why I refurbish my old gear for the 1st time and after more than a quarter of century,- it always worked (except wear parts) and not only "around" ... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ideally, it should print money when being switched on and not stealing lifetime :D

The SCOPE stuff is dead on stable until one of the other Windows apps shoot it,- the workaround is de-install that crap.
Can´t wait for SCOPE 6 w/ Copperlan embedded.

Bud

Re: suggest me a virtual midi cable...

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:53 am
by sunmachine
bosone wrote:
siriusbliss wrote:I use MIDIox with nanokontroller.
Works great.

G
can you run in the tray / background mode without having the window appear every time?!
Bosone, did you give Copperlan a try? After configuring your setup you can even close the Copperlan Manager. Might be exactly what you're looking for. And since it will play together with SCOPE 6 you'll already have a part of the future now... ;-)

Re: suggest me a virtual midi cable...

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:12 am
by bosone
thanks everyone!
for now i used midiOX and loopmidi (which works in 64 bit and so it is OK with my sonar 8.5).

i auto-started both midi OX and loopmidi but since they were loading faster than SFP, i found a program called startup delayer
http://www.r2.com.au/page/products/show/startdelay
which delays the loading time of loopmidi (to create the virtual midi ports) and midiOX (to send the data from korg nanokontrol to both sonar and SFP)

Re: suggest me a virtual midi cable...

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:55 am
by siriusbliss
I'm also reading that 64-bit support for MIDIox may never happen.
So as we move forward towards full-on Win8 64-bit environment, then we may get stuck.

Nevertheless I'm also looking forward to copperLAN integration -especially since I sort of introduced CL to SC at NAMM 2012 :)

Greg

Re: suggest me a virtual midi cable...

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:00 pm
by bosone
midiOX is working well in my 64 bit system with win7
i have no issues with it.

the only problem was that i initially installed midiyoke to route midi signal to sonar and midiyoke was not working in 64 bit. that's why i chose loopmidi.

my routing is:

nanokontrol -> midiOX

midiOX -> loopmidi
-> scope

loopmidi --> sonar


i had to use loopmidi because nanokontrol mididevice would not open in both sonar and midiox

Re: suggest me a virtual midi cable...

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:07 pm
by dante
siriusbliss wrote:I'm also reading that 64-bit support for MIDIox may never happen. So as we move forward towards full-on Win8 64-bit environment, then we may get stuck.
LoopBe will work on 64 bit.

http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe30.html

And thier ipMIDI has been working over IP (Ethernet) for years now @ near zero latency up to 1 Gbit/s.

Re: suggest me a virtual midi cable...

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:00 pm
by Bud Weiser
dante wrote: And thier ipMIDI has been working over IP (Ethernet) for years now @ near zero latency up to 1 Gbit/s.
It´s important info ipMIDI and rtpMIDI is TCP/IP based and Copperlan is not !!!

So, when working w/ several computers connected to a ethernet switch, the switch connected to the router/web, you´re being able to do your downloads and surfing websites,- Copperlan protects from catching virus and malware into your audio/MIDI system/machines by not being TCP/IP based.

It seems, they also work on ethernet based fast & hi data thruput audio-streaming between applications and across connected machines.
There are now also 2 new Alyseum devices supporting PoE,- so you won´t need any walwart PSUs for Alyseum devices anymore.
More to come for sure.

Also, rtpMIDI compatible hardware devices is KISSbox,- much more expensive gear than Alyseum !

Bud