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Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:59 am
by niceboy
ehasting wrote:The suggestion of the day:
SC: can you please hand over the source code to tgstgs
Anyway, i am looking forward to be getting the key! i love that you can have several sources of audio, easy to have pre- post- check

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Thanx for brining new stuff to the platform!
I was thinking first of the area we are researching in that needs to se what happens.
We can use heavy analog gear for that , but I dont want to.
This is great.
Bear
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:09 am
by wouterz
Trial key received, now I can test this device for 50 hours

Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:32 am
by niceboy
wouterz wrote:Trial key received, now I can test this device for 50 hours

Tell me what you think.
I already bought it but then I can save some time for recordings here.
I got the key really fast .
Bear
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:57 am
by rhythmaster
Bought it!
Looking forward to activate it!
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:23 am
by dawman
Me too, maybe it will tell me why I suck at mixing....
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:26 am
by jksuperstar
2 shots rum, good ginger ale, and squeeze of lime.
Mixing isn't rocket science

Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:36 am
by niceboy
jksuperstar wrote:2 shots rum, good ginger ale, and squeeze of lime.
Mixing isn't rocket science

Give me one condensator plugin now 45000 Micro Farad,
or is there any other plugin with that totally vertical bas cutoff in here.
Bear not Beer
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:16 pm
by dawman
Yeah but after decades of Ins and outs, and sound on conventional mixers, everything now is too confusing at time, these ins, are really this one outs, and that ones outs, go to this ones ins, which are really that ones outs, etc.....
I just wanna play and when I record maybe this picto-gram/analyzer will say your low end is off center and sucks, try this.
My kind of plug in.
I bought it and can't wait to stare at it after I drop some 4 way Window payne Acid.
Much better than the Orange Barrels from Fenton, MO. where we drove at the Acid factory you could order from like a real business back in the day.
If they had the internet, they could have been contenders...
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:32 pm
by Liquid EDGE
Just paid for it.
About time they did this tool for looking at sound.
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:02 pm
by HUROLURA
@tgstgs
My Xite-1 host is an Intel Core2 Duo T7100 @ 1.80GHz
Would it be enough to run the plugin.
From what I understand, most of the work done by this plug is done by the host, no ?
Nice tool ...
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:28 pm
by niceboy
Liquid EDGE wrote:Just paid for it.
About time they did this tool for looking at sound.
I bought it for a special reason that I know I can see,
but I still want to know more arias where its usefull.
Tell me I want to know.
Bear
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:59 pm
by mausmuso
dawman wrote:
I just wanna play and when I record maybe this picto-gram/analyzer will say your low end is off center and sucks, try this.
My kind of plug in.
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Unfortunately this plug won't help you with low end centering, but its a great idea for extending this plug.
I use the Stereo Spectrum tab of Nugen Visualizer (along with the MonoFilter) to check this and I would love something similar in SCOPE.
IMHO it's essential when mixing and mastering.
The other upgrade of Analyzer I would like to see is the ability to zoom-in on the frequency scale.
Maus
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:25 am
by Eanna
Hi, I'm away from my studio setup for the next few days.. I've a PCI-based Scope system, 21 in total.
I would like to purchase this device before the price changes... But that will mean I won't get the opportunity to test it first.
So, can anyone tell me, is it true that this eats DSP? I will continue to route audio over ASIO to Nugen Visualiser if this consumes lots of DSP...
Thanks!
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:30 am
by rhythmaster
mausmuso wrote:
Unfortunately this plug won't help you with low end centering, but its a great idea for extending this plug.
I use the Stereo Spectrum tab of Nugen Visualizer (along with the MonoFilter) to check this and I would love something similar in SCOPE.
IMHO it's essential when mixing and mastering.
The other upgrade of Analyzer I would like to see is the ability to zoom-in on the frequency scale.
Maus
Soniccore and upgrade? I've never seen a major upgrade of anything in the last years especially the standard plugins and not to forget the SB-404 which is NOT properly working for years now(!)
But never give up hoping! Be grateful for what you've got!
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:57 am
by tgstgs
@hurolura yes the drawing of curves on the screen is done by the host;
my worst case test pc is a 3GHz singlecore with onboard grafix;
tested without any probl.
@Eanna no it is NOT true
@mausmuso this is not true;
you see phase differences better than with any other analyzer;
you could simply perform a left minus right wich is done in frequency domain in frequency views;
so the difference you see is per bin frequency!!
as for the filter . . well there are for sure a lot of better filters avail in the scope platform;
@niceboy
well i would be interested to see a white noise feed in your feedback circuit with the analyzer at the output of your circuit;
maybe historiesed course im not sure if your feedback circuit is timedependant;
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Micro Farad is not interesting in digital domain;
what you are building are filters;
check the frequency response youre after;
in the condenser datasheet you have a frequency response curve this is what is possible to rebuild;
and btw if you use modulated delays in your feedback lines youre building verbs that are a special kind of filters;
i prefer feedforward much better to control
good vibes
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:43 am
by Eanna
Thanks tgstgs
Without being able to trial this device at the moment, I was responding to a comment on the previous page:
> it's heavy on the DSP usage (the most extensive version of the analyzer adds 6 bars in the DSP meter on a 18 DSP system)
I don't know what 'extensive' means here, and I don't know at what sample rate the Scope clock was running at, at that time. Does 'extensive' mean "high-quality" interpolation / small 'block size' / inter-sample visualisation of a stereo signal on the way in and on the way out (four channels)?
Are you able to embed an ActiveX component into the Scope platform UI? And keep the redraws in sync with a feed from Scope? Thought that was one of the points of Scope6, to be able to use third-party components for device GUI's? Or is that 'just' for device pads, and what you're doing is rendering the raw data feed from your Scope device?
Thanks, Eanna
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:00 am
by Eanna
I've downloaded the Zip from your site. I see a DLL there, I'm guessing that this is the native graphics context container that can be embedded in a scope device frame...
Reading the (good) manual, I'm guessing that the heaviest load is when 'all four' channels are requested, and the block size is set at its highest value at 8192?
Do the many other screen rendering functions affect the DSP load? Such as the 'Vibes' checkbox, the different rendering algorithms, the sum and difference functions... it would seem to me that the host could take the strain with those?
The (expensive) Filtering to produce the raw data is implemented in Scope, and the DLL subscribes for data from Scope, applies the graph rendering functions, am I correct?
Thanks again, Eanna
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:18 am
by dawman
I like this scientific shit, I pushed Vibes up to 20, then dropped my Acid,
music even sounds better.
24 hour turn around....
Ankyu
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:25 am
by tgstgs
that comment was about wolfs great analyzer pack not our plugin___
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yes i could use activeX but this is much better;
all of our plugs use new atoms made with c or c++ running on host;
these are the sys, dll and pep files
or code running on the dsps are coded in sharc assembler these are the dsp files_
but this was ever since we start to develope for sc_
there are no filters these are FFTs running;
the real expensive thing is the drawing on screen;
at this speed in this size_
no in fact 1024 points fft blocksize is more expensive course you had to redraw each 1024 samples;
i have sdk6__ btw
good vibes
Re: New G.O.S.T Analyzer plugin
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:32 am
by tgstgs
the value 20 below the vibes checkbox is the y axis multiplier;
you may set this also by draging the mouse up and down in the display by right buttn down;
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to start 2 curves showing the same just eats circles btw.
but i know you have lots of power so you dont care__
good vibes to vegas