Does scope need a wiki?

[cortone]

Maybe to tie in to our favorite site:

scopeplanet.org
planetscope.org
zscope.org
scopezplanet.org (Zees ees no good. Oui, non?)
scopeplanetZ.org

[mausmuso]

maybe scope&purpose.com

[valis]

http://www.scopedia.net/index.php/Main_Page

Need to get some basic pathing & security done, and add some users etc.

I could probably add a few initial users now too, if anyone's interested in helping create content feel free to pm.

But vefore doing any actual work on the site how about do some basic thoughts on an outline for the content?

[netguyjoel]

I was thinking...just from a "definitions" point of view...just a thought....
I. Synths
A. Sonic Core Synthesizers
1. Uknow 007 - type - qualities - features & benefits -
2. Vectron
B. Trird Party Synthesizers
1. Solaris
2. XOR

II Types of synthesis - orientation - developers - personalities - most commonly used etc
A. additive
B. Subtractive
C. Freq Mod
D. Modular

III. Samplers
etc etc...

I'm just kinda wingin it, off the top of my head....VERY COOL valis! THANK YOU!

[valis]

What I know needs to be done asap:
- Setup some basic permissions & usergroups (site is wide open atm for acct creation & content editing, but easy to reinstall in worst case)
- assign a few Bureaucrats (moderators)
- decide what uploads/directory accesses to allow for users, bots & Bureaucrats
- Basic templating (for now) & logo
- Insure that GD is working and decide if we want LaTeX/TeX support (formulas)
- rtfm

Going to give myself a week to get the basics done, which should be more than enough time. Worst case scenario: 2 weeks (unexpected work interferes).

[Ben Walker]

Great stuff, Valis.
I think netguyjoel's suggestions are fine to get us going.
I'm happy to contribute anything.

For the record, any content from my site can be re-used in this wiki.
But I wouldn't vouch for the copyright of the images of album covers on my site, so I wouldn't use those if I was you.

B

[bosone]

great start!

if someone has time, a good start could be the translation from html to wiki my pages:

http://www.alchemystudio.it/Tutorial/Cr ... ial_en.htm

http://www.alchemystudio.it/Tutorial/CW ... on_en.html

nowadays i'm pretty busy in other things... and i'm not yet used to wiki format, even if i know it's extremely easy to learn...

PS: post a permanent link and a button to access the wiki directly from the Z, for example beside the Z logo in the upper-left corner

[netguyjoel]

Here's a fast one to get started with...as time allows...I'll give it a shot to start converting & saving docs...
http://toolserver.org/~diberri/cgi-bin/ ... /index.cgi

@valis, please let me know when I can start adding content...

bosone, thank you for the material paisano...

[bosone]

I Just tried to make the first page (as a draft!):

http://www.scopedia.net/index.php/First_steps_on_SFP_1

but i was not able to transfer the images from my website as thumbnails / big sized image...

actually, it didnt took me too much... thanks to netguyjoel for the html/wiki converter!

[netguyjoel]

I think it's some settings in the wiki that valis need to change in order for the Images to transfer...I'm confident this will start to run like a well oiled machine...valis is a pretty talented dude...

[Ben Walker]

One of the things I like about Wikis is their ability to categorise pages according to different criteria.
So for example, we can have Effects by type, allowing people to look at all Effects of (say) type Reverb (both stock and 3rd party), or to browse devices by developer, etc.
It'll take some time to go through all the 3rd party devices on PLanetZ and categorise them, but I think it'll be worth it.
Looking forward to contributing.

[valis]

I think it's some settings in the wiki that valis need to change in order for the Images to transfer...I'm confident this will start to run like a well oiled machine...valis is a pretty talented dude...

Yes sorry, needs the basic configuration, probably a combination of lack of write permissions on the webserver & variables needing to be set in the configuration file. Wife is asleep and I'm up late now, will see what I can get done. Note that I put timeframes above just so you guys had some sort of commitment out of me (ie, might take a week--two at worst--to get things fully functional).

Great stuff, Valis.
For the record, any content from my site can be re-used in this wiki.
But I wouldn't vouch for the copyright of the images of album covers on my site, so I wouldn't use those if I was you.

There was an article recently about why the quality of wikipedia's images are so bad. Basically summed it Wikipedia said they will always opt for the image that has the most open (do whatever you want with it) of the CC licenses, and it's usually only the complete amateurs that are willing to give their work away for free. There are some user-content driven sites out there for music, including wikipedia. Might be worth looking at their content's licensing (or just link offsite for now?)

[valis]

Btw u guys are doing great stuff, I only hope I can keep up

[netguyjoel]

All I gotta say is thanks for everything YOU have contributed so far! You git the ball rolling with a cool URL, and hosting it for all of us to use...well done mate...

[valis]

Well the url registration could have been $3 if I did it through my own whm/cpanel VPS, but I elected to do godaddy+private registration info for ~$18 to shield my home address from the physical mail-spam that you get when you register a domain. So could have been cheaper but not really terribly pricey. And for now the hosting is free since it's on my server so...the biggest cost is time (as usual). Have made some progress with configurations on my local dev/test install but I probably won't get it on the server until tomorrow. (testing is under virtualbox with CentOS 5.2 configured based on my webhost so it should be seamless.)

Incidentally the main index is currently an index.html blank file to hopefully keep search engine results for new pages from revealing the wiki before it's configured. Some basic htaccess & apache rules in place too but nothing exotic, just mentioning it in case someone tries to go to the site by typing the url.

[netguyjoel]

now who woulda done that...

[valis]

Uploaded some changes tonight.

1. Check & see if images are writeablel remote/http uploads shouldn't work, but browsing for a local file should.

2. See if thumbnail generation works (GD should hopefully be working now, want to see if it generates thumbnails.)

3. Php should NOT be able to execute from the images dir when uploaded, if you'd like to test this try a simple phpinfo file (info here). Please reply if you do this so I can go delete that (hopefully I can configure it eventually to deny obvious file extension uploads.)

Started on simple template changes as well, and played around with user settings. Haven't yet ordained anyone as I need to setup the wiki security a bit more...

[Ben Walker]

Cool. Thanks for your work on this.

Upload file via http appears to work until you actually try and access the file. I won't upload any more until we get the go ahead from you.

Anyone got an idea for a Scopedia logo?

Ben

[netguyjoel]

I was thinking something with a book in it...Just a starter thought...opinions??? please...?

scopedia.jpg (22.78 KiB) Viewed 2305 times

thanking you in advance...

[Ben Walker]

Not sure if it's because the logo isn't there any more, or if it's an effect of the new css file but the left hand menu now is slightly covered up by edge of the browser, both in IE6 and FireFox3.5. The 't' of 'toolbox' is only just visible in IE.
Not a biggy, but thought I should mention it.