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Re: need to reinstall scope if change cpu?
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:36 am
by SonicTransportSystem
valis wrote:SonicTransportSystem wrote:
Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC is sharing IRQ 22 with my soundcard...but i think this is the mainboard soundcard and was disabled at the Bios.
Onboard networking chip (not a soundcard). You're in ACPI mode so they may or may not be sharing at the hardware level. Before moving the card again though, go into your BIOS again and make sure you have anything unnecessary disabled (parallel, serial, floppy if you don't have one etc). After that (or if you've already done that) find the 'reset ESCD data' option and use it, then save & reboot. That will clear the information stored for IRQ sharing and you may get different sharing on reboot. If that doesn't work you can try moving the card again.
SonicTransportSystem wrote:valis wrote:The c2sx is sending active sensing messages, these have been known to cause Scope to 'freeze' the host computer when used with a Pentium-4 era cpu that has hyperthreading enabled (which is what your new cpu appears to be).
but my old cpu was a Pentium 4 too and never happens this kind of things....the diference is just more 800 mhz
It's easy to test. Unplug the keyboard, work in your project for about an hour. If it hasn't crashed, you identified the problem & know the solutions from this thread. If it does crash then it's something else, and you've eliminated a possibility. It's been crashing on you while working anyway it seems like...just remember to save frequently and protect your monitors.
Most importantly, when you test I would test each thing at a time. Or better yet, unplug the keyboard for now and work on the IRQ sharing. When you can successfully run a Scope+Cubase project without crashing, try hooking the keyboard back up and see if the crashing returns.
I think that when the computer shop guy update the mainboard drive for the new cpu after that when computer reboot the mainboard clear all the information..even i remember that Realtek was unable and i ask him to disabled.
Thanks a lot again for you help
Re: need to reinstall scope if change cpu?
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:52 am
by SonicTransportSystem
Already filtered active sensing with scope midi filter and some problem happens...just try it with absynth standalone...but i think is all part of the same problem...
Re: need to reinstall scope if change cpu?
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:10 am
by SonicTransportSystem
Made a asio multimedia test and no sync lost it seems is ok! Im goin to open cubase and see if everything plays well...yesterday night i was maybe half an hour working with it and was working fine
Re: need to reinstall scope if change cpu?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:34 am
by SonicTransportSystem
Everytyhing is ok now! Was cause of IRQ`S!
Thanks a lot for all the help
Cheers
Re: need to reinstall scope if change cpu?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:28 am
by garyb
Re: need to reinstall scope if change cpu?
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:50 am
by SonicTransportSystem
My friends! Was not an irqs problem...was a processor problem! When i thougth that everything was ok, computer start to crash again, so, need to return to my old cpu!

Now im trying to recover my money from the guy that sold me the cpu...was in a online auction here in Portugal!
Bye
cheers
Pedro
Re: need to reinstall scope if change cpu?
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:07 am
by valis
It's possible the cpu is bad, but an easy way to test that is just to clock it down in your bios. If you can run it stably at lower speeds then that indicates the problem. You'd also have to insure that you've got the thing properly mounted, using proper amounts of decent thermal paste and a cooler that's adequate for the new cpu etc etc.
I still have this thought though...I have *never* been able to get Scope fully stable with hyperthreading active and a synth that uses active sensing. It will eventually cause the whole thing to fall over, and in ways that are not clearly understandable. My solution was just to not connect synths with active sensing to scope, use a USB midi i/o instead and reserve Scope's midi for a control surface or another synth/controller.
You can try disabling hyperthreading in your bios to see if that helps too.
Re: need to reinstall scope if change cpu?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:30 pm
by SonicTransportSystem
valis wrote:It's possible the cpu is bad, but an easy way to test that is just to clock it down in your bios. If you can run it stably at lower speeds then that indicates the problem. You'd also have to insure that you've got the thing properly mounted, using proper amounts of decent thermal paste and a cooler that's adequate for the new cpu etc etc.
I still have this thought though...I have *never* been able to get Scope fully stable with hyperthreading active and a synth that uses active sensing. It will eventually cause the whole thing to fall over, and in ways that are not clearly understandable. My solution was just to not connect synths with active sensing to scope, use a USB midi i/o instead and reserve Scope's midi for a control surface or another synth/controller.
You can try disabling hyperthreading in your bios to see if that helps too.
Im going to talk with a friend of mine that is computer engineer about your idea, for me seems a good chance!
I will say something.
Thanks again for you suport and interest
Cheers