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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:55 am
by Spirit
Some mysterious company in India ? Next thing you know Frank will pop up on some sub-Antarctic island and offer to pick each of us up to join his guru collective in some Tesla-powered flying saucer....
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:08 am
by sonolive
hi all
veeerrrryyyy gooood news indeed !
all the best for 2007
cheers
olive
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:12 am
by dawman
Brotha' Man Olive,
I hope you are skiing the Alps, and have a good New Year w/ DAS. Tell Eric the same, I will be keeping him busy for a couple more months.
Also, if you could send me a PayPal link for the DAS bundle please.
Best Regards,
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:57 pm
by sonolive
hi jimmy
very smooth snow .... all what i love, sunny smooth snow !!!
and a very good first "touch" for children !!!
thx for all jim, and happy new year for you and your family
cheers
olive
Happy new year 2007
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:33 pm
by spacef
Hi all,
and
Happy new year 2007 !
I wish to all of you, ie, planetz crew, users, creamware, all developpers and sdk users, a great year 2007, and especially, but not limited to, great successes, happy times with the ones you love, and also peace in the world, prosperity and serenity.
All my wishes of success to the new
InDsp venture.
and
Peace and
love to the world (peace alone would be enough...

) !
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:08 pm
by astroman
yeah, of course it
looks like that ... and I couldn't resist an ironic remark in another thread, but imho that's just the cover of the book you're reviewing
I agree that it's kind of sad, strictly looking at it from the 'german' perspective, but that's how it goes...
other countries are more competive, have more loyal and motivated employees, economic conditions (less bureaucracy) are better etc.
It's the price this country and it's education system pays for arrogance and lazyness.
Are you informed about the conditions demanded by candidates after they finished their diploma, usually totally unexperienced to real-world business ?
You introduce someone to a project and when he or she sought up enough of the respective company's 'essence' they will quit and start their own business.
In the meantime paid holidays galore, extra social security, 'leisure friendly' schedules etc.
Frank has one single asset, and that's the knowledge and experience about the mechanics behind this DSP system (and how to possibly extend it to other platforms) - a project like inDSP is simply impossible under German conditions - you're either super-effective (in technology) or the music plays elsewhere, so to say...
cheers, Tom
(ps: I perfectly accept your point of view, though)
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:58 pm
by astroman
stardust wrote:Hehe Tom. So bitter feelings ?
Globalization has victims. On both sides. The wealthy and the poor part...
no bitter feelings, maybe a bit cynical...

I know it's a thin edge - and even India IS already changing, so it's not about neo-colonialism anymore...
but honestly - I left school about 30 years ago (it drove me nuts btw...)
When I talk to the young guys 'n gals at sport today, it seems that few has changed - and that's as shocking, as it's an explanation ...
cheers, Tom
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:18 pm
by Sammy Spider
Business is hard of course - we all know. And not easy in Germany I guess and I agree. Going to India sounds to be an interesting idea but hopefully not all technologie is coming from outside in future - outherwise I will loose my job here in Germany
Yes, you are right, we do not know much about the insolvency two years ago. I bought some cheap Creamware things two years ago and after that I noticed that they went to insolvency. Never mind - I have Scope still in use sometimes, although I mean that it's really time for a new hardware and some important bug fixes and new features. But... nothing new, and I'm no longer waiting. I just saw this announcement from Frank and I decided to make a cut now. This announcement from Frank makes me a bit upset and sad because I'm sure now that there will come nothing new in time wich is any interesting for me.
And again: it looks like some diffuse deals and only some promises - it feels not to be fair to crash a company twice and then go to India somehow. And even if it may be difficult to have a company in Germany, it is never fault of the government if a company go bust. And we are not lazy in Geramany - sorry.
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:32 pm
by astroman
Sammy Spider wrote:... And we are not lazy in Geramany - sorry.
oh my Sammy, that's almost the Freudian of the year - you didn't want to write
Geriamany, did you ?

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:46 pm
by Sammy Spider
astroman: it's getting late

I meant "Geranium"... no "Germany" - thanks, now I know again where I am.

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:21 pm
by dawman
Many good businesses here will suffer when the democrats take office in 2008, they love to tax the middle class, as the rich have ample time to find tax shelters when they come in. It's a joke, but the good side is Bush will be gone, amd maybe you guys can forgive us 4 unleashing him on the Middle East, and the rest of the world.
From what I understand, Europe is pretty much socialist these days, and it has to be hard to compete with companies like we have here in the states and in Japan. But your time is coming in 2008, and inDSP will be in the right place at the right time IMHO. It is not time yet, 4 the body of Ralf, and I am being overly paranoid by saying this, but I feel that many neopyhte sabotuers will be frequenting here very soon. But like I said, I shall dwell in the house of Ralf, till the cows come home.
Strength And Honor,
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:35 pm
by paulrmartin
scope4live wrote:
I shall dwell in the house of Ralf, till the cows come home.
So will I because I believe in Ralf.
Why is it that there are so many people here who are ready to throw in the towel so quickly..?
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:04 pm
by astroman
stardust wrote:Tom - getting old and wise is not an obstacle in principle.

...
it
is if you start to avoid a 2nd sleepless night, while you could easily go on for 3 when you were younger
an occasional lack of money may be inconvenient, the constantly growing lack of time is frightening
I have an IT design, planning and support job (self-employed as I just learned below...) - at least 2 programming projects constantly, 3 guitars, 2 basses, a midi sax and a Scope system, I do outdoor sports like biking and rock-climbing and I love my wife (how does she stand me, btw ?)
Insomnia, Tom
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:09 pm
by emzee
paulrmartin wrote:Why is it that there are so many people here who are ready to throw in the towel so quickly..?
Maybe they've never been self-employed, so lack understanding of business realities.....and the personal qualities required to survive.
Maybe others are too busy using their gear.......working...
Setting up in India looks like a brilliant idea. How Frank managed to keep that off Planet Z is a small miracle. Oh yes........ most people would have given up after going through what CW Frank has been through. To me, he seems to be adjusting, learning, and getting stronger and smarter....... and that's why I believe in him .... and whatever form Creamware and Scope may survive and grow in.
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:21 pm
by hubird
emzee wrote:paulrmartin wrote:How Frank managed to keep that off Planet Z is a small miracle.
There were a (very) few hints by some usually well informed members, saying that there is not really reason for panic...(my words).
That combined with the immediate denial of my idea that the hardware might not have sold enough made me decide to just wait.
I just hoped that Creamware would do an announcement before the holidays are over and the press takes over again.
And yes, F.H. was perfectly on time
emzee wrote:
Oh yes........ most people would have given up after going through what CW Frank has been through. To me, he seems to be adjusting, learning, and getting stronger and smarter....... and that's why I believe in him .... and whatever form Creamware and Scope may survive and grow in.
My words

There sure some 'dirty' economical tricks are going on here, but expectingly nothing unusual, if that makes sense.
At least things are seriously moving now, and indeed, if the drive behind it is F.H.'s love for the Scope platform then we could be worse off.
cheers.
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:52 pm
by bill3107
hum, ... hard to talk about something we do not really know... we all know that running a company is very complex and none of us know exactly who has got the power and/or the money within creamware... As for the link between creamware and inDSP, that's the same mystery... So, i really think that we do not have enough clues or data to say "that's a good idea" or "that's unfair" or whatever....
What is sure :
- there have been many new products (ASB, Klangs, Dynatube, 3rd party...
- the marketing has been improved (even if not perfect) : the ASB are very good products and are DIFFERENT like scope software is different from the others...
- the hotline has become increasingly efficient (thank you Ralf !)
- annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd...., man, at least we can say there is a MOVE. That's the good news.
Jonathan
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:25 am
by frokka
BingoTheClowno wrote:
So it looks like the Shark chip will be replaced with the Blackfin chip (a 400MHz chip compared to 60MHz).
There are different Blackfins, some go up to 600 MHz:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfin
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:32 pm
by BingoTheClowno
You're right! My mistake.
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:46 pm
by husker
frokka wrote:BingoTheClowno wrote:
So it looks like the Shark chip will be replaced with the Blackfin chip (a 400MHz chip compared to 60MHz).
There are different Blackfins, some go up to 600 MHz:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfin
I'll take your 600MHz and raise you a 756MHz
http://www.analog.com/en/epProd/0,,ADSP-BF533,00.html