Hi Djmicron
Cyprox is my dream device !!!
My second dream is this device - engine like Cyprox but not input controller. Input source ( for each channel) Lfo with classic shape, rnd, sh, fractal and bpm clock synchro.
Output controller like Cyprox.
This device ideal for generative and algoritmic music.
P.S - fractal oscilator with basic mandelbrot routine z=(z*z)+c
my few fractal examples in G2 patches section (nick=megerov) - only for G2 or G2engine users www.electro-music.com ( G2 forum )
Sorry my bad English
Kamil
Cyprox (midi cc modifier, converter, router) updated to v1.1
Shit,....how did I miss something like this ?!! This is a beautiful device. It also has an excellant GUI, well laid out. I have read this thread and know this device must have been awesome, as it brought out the best and brightest minds @ the " Z ", in the link.
I shall mourn it's absence.
Brotha' Man DJMicron, paisano, have mecy on me. I missed this one. I have your others, and your B2003 modification rocks on my routing window.
I understand your position, and respect your decision to bail.
How could I help ?
I shall mourn it's absence.
Brotha' Man DJMicron, paisano, have mecy on me. I missed this one. I have your others, and your B2003 modification rocks on my routing window.
I understand your position, and respect your decision to bail.
How could I help ?
hello,
i'm pleased to see Your interest in my devices
In a few days there will be a new web site dedicated to scope devices and scope sdk and i'm testing if all is woking before of making it available on line (it is why i disappeared).
So don't worry, all my devices will be placed on the new web site.
Thanks and sorry for disappearing
Sal
i'm pleased to see Your interest in my devices
In a few days there will be a new web site dedicated to scope devices and scope sdk and i'm testing if all is woking before of making it available on line (it is why i disappeared).
So don't worry, all my devices will be placed on the new web site.
Thanks and sorry for disappearing
Sal
I support this. Great idea. We have so much talent around here, it's good to see it being used.
Cyprox looks like it would fix my pedal controllers, 4 they really suck on B2003 swells, etc., etc.. The minimum, maximum, parameters look like supreme control can be used. I assume this really works well w/ Cubase 4, and all of the little MIDI shit that thrives in that app.
Look Forward To Hearing From You,
Cyprox looks like it would fix my pedal controllers, 4 they really suck on B2003 swells, etc., etc.. The minimum, maximum, parameters look like supreme control can be used. I assume this really works well w/ Cubase 4, and all of the little MIDI shit that thrives in that app.
Look Forward To Hearing From You,
The new DJmicron's web project is really awesome!!! 
I have received from him some anticipations about philosophy and functionality of his new site (particularly about Scope SDK collaborative development).
I want to unconditionally support his work.
Thanks Salvatore
I'm curious
I have received from him some anticipations about philosophy and functionality of his new site (particularly about Scope SDK collaborative development).
I want to unconditionally support his work.
Thanks Salvatore
I'm curious
4PC + Scope 5.0 + no more Xite + 2xScope Pro + 6xPulsarII + 2xLunaII + SDK + a lot of devices (Flexor III & Solaris 4.1 etc.) + Plugiator.
Glad you're still working on Scope devices Sal
btw, what's the issue or problem with releasing free Scope devices here on PlanetZ where the userbase gather frequently? If they're protected using the correct procedures & are safe to release publically, then what's the problem? Are you gonna put your devices back here on this forum too?.
This all feels like some sort of split in the development community, but I hope I'm wrong
btw, what's the issue or problem with releasing free Scope devices here on PlanetZ where the userbase gather frequently? If they're protected using the correct procedures & are safe to release publically, then what's the problem? Are you gonna put your devices back here on this forum too?.
This all feels like some sort of split in the development community, but I hope I'm wrong
as I understood the topic he is not "afraid" of the users who don't have access to the sdk, but just use his devices.Shroomz wrote:Glad you're still working on Scope devices Sal
btw, what's the issue or problem with releasing free Scope devices here on PlanetZ where the userbase gather frequently?
he imho just does not want his self-developed circuitery copied to a new device and hiding the origin by someone who uses the trick (as he called it). such persons (should they exist) are the ones I would consider to split the community, instead of djmicron.
I think the problem was that they were not fully protected in some way (that's how I read that), and he discovered by accident that he was not the only one.If they're protected using the correct procedures & are safe to release publically, then what's the problem? Are you gonna put your devices back here on this forum too?.
he promised the devices to be back "when it will be safe."
-greetings, markus-
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I'm sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma.
I'm sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma.
Kylie, the issue was the fact that a certain packing procedure is required to make your sdk devices more secure. Salvatore & some other sdk devs hadn't been using the correct procedure & so did not have completely secure devices. I think from what he said previously, that Sal reckons that several devs must have known about this for quite some time, although nobody had informed him of the issue. The so called 'trick' or 'bug' as it has been reffered to is actually neither of those. It's a feature in the software which I can't talk about in more detail here.
What I can & will say is that I doubt very very much that anyone who knew about this issue before Sal would have ripped off his or someone elses circuit & put a new gui on, as that's not even a remotely desireable thing to do. I think it's an insult to the integrity of some of the devs here to suggest that they would be interested in stealing someone elses work.
I heard off list that complaints were made to creamware by certain Scope devs here & that threats of legal action were also made to certain people. None of that has come to anything nor should it, as from what I know there is no proof anywhere of any foul play.
To make his devices 'safe' in the sense being discussed & re-upload them, would have taken Salvatore 1 maybe 2 hours at the most, from when he was informed about the security issue in his work.
Like I said, this has been blown way out of proportion & I'll repeat that it's insulting to some people here that accusations of possible circuit theft are even brought into public conversation here.
Sorry for talking about this here on your device thread Salvatore, but I feel that it needs clearing up & put into some sort of sensible context if that's at all possible.
best regards
Shroomz
What I can & will say is that I doubt very very much that anyone who knew about this issue before Sal would have ripped off his or someone elses circuit & put a new gui on, as that's not even a remotely desireable thing to do. I think it's an insult to the integrity of some of the devs here to suggest that they would be interested in stealing someone elses work.
I heard off list that complaints were made to creamware by certain Scope devs here & that threats of legal action were also made to certain people. None of that has come to anything nor should it, as from what I know there is no proof anywhere of any foul play.
To make his devices 'safe' in the sense being discussed & re-upload them, would have taken Salvatore 1 maybe 2 hours at the most, from when he was informed about the security issue in his work.
Like I said, this has been blown way out of proportion & I'll repeat that it's insulting to some people here that accusations of possible circuit theft are even brought into public conversation here.
Sorry for talking about this here on your device thread Salvatore, but I feel that it needs clearing up & put into some sort of sensible context if that's at all possible.
best regards
Shroomz
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Salvatore has informed some devellopers that their devices could be opened and copied ...and they are copied...maybe that's the reason of lots of beta bugged version...Shroomz wrote:Kylie, the issue was the fact that a certain packing procedure is required to make your sdk devices more secure. Salvatore & some other sdk devs hadn't been using the correct procedure & so did not have completely secure devices. I think from what he said previously, that Sal reckons that several devs must have known about this for quite some time, although nobody had informed him of the issue. The so called 'trick' or 'bug' as it has been reffered to is actually neither of those. It's a feature in the software which I can't talk about in more detail here.
What I can & will say is that I doubt very very much that anyone who knew about this issue before Sal would have ripped off his or someone elses circuit & put a new gui on, as that's not even a remotely desireable thing to do. I think it's an insult to the integrity of some of the devs here to suggest that they would be interested in stealing someone elses work.
I heard off list that complaints were made to creamware by certain Scope devs here & that threats of legal action were also made to certain people. None of that has come to anything nor should it, as from what I know there is no proof anywhere of any foul play.
To make his devices 'safe' in the sense being discussed & re-upload them, would have taken Salvatore 1 maybe 2 hours at the most, from when he was informed about the security issue in his work.
Like I said, this has been blown way out of proportion & I'll repeat that it's insulting to some people here that accusations of possible circuit theft are even brought into public conversation here.
Sorry for talking about this here on your device thread Salvatore, but I feel that it needs clearing up & put into some sort of sensible context if that's at all possible.
best regards
Shroomz
this way to open protected devices was known by some of good devellopers,but the conspiracy of silence has made them very discret about what i call "sdk bug".numbers of good and nice dev were exposed to this bug...even official dev...
Salvatore is one of the nice members who has decided to talk about this bug.you are a great man
you are not like the member who have informed only you...those members are very happy and so proud to see that this kind of bug could be good for their own bizness or free bizness...
we knows that a list of complaint has been made and we hope that those members here will be on justice.their true names and their planetz pseudo,are well known by creamware stuff.
for all new or pseudo cw dev here and all over the world,the procedure to protect your devices well,is that YOU HAVE TO DELETE ALL GRAPHICS OBJECT BEFORE PROTECTING THE DEVICE.when you only protect the device,it can be open,you see all the algo but not all parameters...but ,you can remove a copy protection for example !
when you use hacked software or hacked devices,the result is the death of devellopement and the death of a great compagny...
i want to thanks astroman to have deleted all those hacked devices
...maybe he is alone...for the others,i hope you will be taken out of this nice creamware community as soon as possible.
eric
ps : like scope4live say : "When One Door Closes, Another One Opens" ...thanks to emt...
thanks Salvatore to have informed this nice dev community soiled by 3 dishonest persons.
that's (more or less) what I learned from the announcement. I surely did not (how could IShroomz wrote:Kylie, the issue was the fact that a certain packing procedure is required to make your sdk devices more secure. Salvatore & some other sdk devs hadn't been using the correct procedure & so did not have completely secure devices.
) interprete the trick as no trick at all...I don't doubt that you are right. but, of course, sal was not amused that there was the possibility to do so, and as he put a lot of work into it, he would have liked to know how to secure his devices properly. but maybe this information is hidden somewhere in the manuals, and was not discovered before by several developers (but even if, nobody would tell (me)).What I can & will say is that I doubt very very much that anyone who knew about this issue before Sal would have ripped off his or someone elses circuit & put a new gui on, as that's not even a remotely desireable thing to do.
I agree that this would have been discussed better in a developer-only forum.
-greetings, markus-
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I'm sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma.
I'm sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma.
the general problem with conspirational silence is, that someday someone will discover the bug and use it for his or her own purpose. maybe it would have been better discussed in the open (among the developers) so that everybody had the chance of knowing and counteracting. but this decision is, of course, not up to me.digitalaudiosoft wrote: this way to open protected devices was known by some of good devellopers,but the conspiracy of silence has made them very discret about what i call "sdk bug".numbers of good and nice dev were exposed to this bug...even official dev...
I absolutely agree with that. it's not a scope-specific problem, as we all know.when you use hacked software or hacked devices,the result is the death of devellopement and the death of a great compagny...
-greetings, markus-
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I'm sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma.
I'm sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma.
I can't believe what I'm reading here. I'm completely disgusted by your attitude Eric.digitalaudiosoft wrote:Salvatore has informed some devellopers that their devices could be opened and copied ...and they are copied...maybe that's the reason of lots of beta bugged version...
this way to open protected devices was known by some of good devellopers,but the conspiracy of silence has made them very discret about what i call "sdk bug".numbers of good and nice dev were exposed to this bug...even official dev...
Salvatore is one of the nice members who has decided to talk about this bug.you are a great man :-) you are not like the member who have informed only you...
those members are very happy and so proud to see that this kind of bug could be good for their own bizness or free bizness...
we knows that a list of complaint has been made and we hope that those members here will be on justice.their true names and their planetz pseudo,are well known by creamware stuff.
for all new or pseudo cw dev here and all over the world,the procedure to protect your devices well,is that YOU HAVE TO DELETE ALL GRAPHICS OBJECT BEFORE PROTECTING THE DEVICE.when you only protect the device,it can be open,you see all the algo but not all parameters...but ,you can remove a copy protection for example !
when you use hacked software or hacked devices,the result is the death of devellopement and the death of a great compagny...
i want to thanks astroman to have deleted all those hacked devices :-)...maybe he is alone...
for the others,i hope you will be taken out of this nice creamware community as soon as possible.
eric
ps : like scope4live say : "When One Door Closes, Another One Opens" ...thanks to emt...
thanks Salvatore to have informed this nice dev community soiled by 3 dishonest persons.
Somehow, I knew you'd come into this conversation & start throwing around unsubstantiated accusations.
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hubird
Can't believe my eyes eighter!digitalaudiosoft wrote:that their devices could be opened and copied ...and they are copied...maybe that's the reason of lots of beta bugged version...
...those members are very happy and so proud to see that this kind of bug could be good for their own bizness or free bizness...
we knows that a list of complaint has been made and we hope that those members here will be on justice.their true names and their planetz pseudo,are well known by creamware stuff.
D*S (still) seems to live on another planet (not even trying to be funny here).
Is it really possible to combine a reasonable technical intelligence (supposed to be there for software devellopment) while at the same time being so rediculous unintelligent concerning social and psychological aspects of life?
Bytheway, wasn't it D*S which just copied some basic atoms while presenting it as a plug with it's own sound?
Talking about copying...
thnx for bringing light into the dark das;
if its so simple to realy protect your devices i understand upsetness from djmicron and others to not be informed;
as user i happy that now all developers who can read can protect their work;
if you give a list of hacked (or stolen ) devices i for me will delete all this ones if i have, to not support this;
maybe a blacklist?
good vibes from vienna
if its so simple to realy protect your devices i understand upsetness from djmicron and others to not be informed;
as user i happy that now all developers who can read can protect their work;
if you give a list of hacked (or stolen ) devices i for me will delete all this ones if i have, to not support this;
maybe a blacklist?
good vibes from vienna
As there are not many developers about whom this accusations could be about I asked Creamware more than 2 month ago to examin my devices to have a proove that possibly accusations are ridiculous.
Martin
EDIT: 25.03.07: Sorry for my bad english I think I used the word possibly wrong, I wanted to say: "Mögliche Anschuldigungen sind vollkommen unzutreffend!"
So it should have been written: Possible accusations are ridiculous !
Martin
EDIT: 25.03.07: Sorry for my bad english I think I used the word possibly wrong, I wanted to say: "Mögliche Anschuldigungen sind vollkommen unzutreffend!"
So it should have been written: Possible accusations are ridiculous !
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hubird
It's a frontal and ridiculous accusation right in the face of our devellopers, and therefor of our community.
Accusing creative people in public to have stolen somebody else's work is the worst you can do, and you should be very sure about what you're saying.
As the accusation by D*S is totally nonsense and can't be documented at all, it would be good if D*S would aplogize for their absurd words and accusations.
It's kinda rediculous that they are asking for (big) flowers in another thread for their contract with a radio station, while at the same time they are blackening our SDK community as a whole by stupid and false accusations without any ground.
Why don't you stay away from us DAS, if you don't like us?
Accusing creative people in public to have stolen somebody else's work is the worst you can do, and you should be very sure about what you're saying.
As the accusation by D*S is totally nonsense and can't be documented at all, it would be good if D*S would aplogize for their absurd words and accusations.
It's kinda rediculous that they are asking for (big) flowers in another thread for their contract with a radio station, while at the same time they are blackening our SDK community as a whole by stupid and false accusations without any ground.
Why don't you stay away from us DAS, if you don't like us?
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The revenge of DAS
And once again, the wonderful face of DAS. You might be forgiven for thinking that DAS had learned some hard lessons about public behaviour and PR. But apparently Eric's been sitting stewing over his perceived 'slights' and would like nothing better than to take revenge on PlanetZ members who put him in his place. For DAS to make these kinds of accusations, in light of their OWN behaviour when they were caught trying to peddle stock devices as their own (you don't get instantly red-faced hysterical when the accusations are not true), is pretty sad. Really, DAS had a EASY task on PlanetZ, when 90% of your customers are on a single board, and the thing to do is make friends, not to treat people like idiots (duh). It's pretty bad when you can't tell satire from the real thing (read entries in Conservopedia for this), and their behaviour has been a textbook case on what NOT to do, to stay in business.