Pro Tone, or one?

medway · Post by **medway** » Sun May 09, 2004 4:56 pm

I agree, their site was confusing for me. But it was their Pro One that led me to using CW. Plus they were very friendly on the phone so they dont deserve to be called these names.

Jesse

interloper · Post by **interloper** » Sun May 09, 2004 7:43 pm

If they can't license you a copy because of legal reasons, what would you like them to do?

If they don't really know how long the legal process will take, what would you like them to say?

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Mon May 10, 2004 12:29 am

Interloper, all people want is an answer from Wine Country. So far all we have is speculation. After all, the SFP synths are featured on the Wine Country homepage for sale ! They could clarify the situation in a couple of sentences and end the damaging chatter.

Imagine they were shopkeepers: They have a shop with a big ad for products in the window, people are lining up outside to buy, tapping on the window waving at the people inside, showing credit cards and cash....

... but inside the shopkeeper just sits at his desk, shaking his head, and refusing to say anything.

Why ? Perhaps the door is stuck, the products have been damaged, the shopkeeper is sick, the cat ate the stock. All that shopkeeper needs to do is hang a little sign outside the window.

It's a strange way to run a business.

valis · Post by **valis** » Mon May 10, 2004 2:06 am

Try running a nightclub sometime...

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Mon May 10, 2004 3:09 am

I was managing "a night" at a club for a short time. It was a nightmare - especially because the club owner kept changing the deal. I backed out very fast...

deejaysly · Post by **deejaysly** » Mon May 10, 2004 3:27 pm

Spirit, what was WC forwarding your own post to you supposed to do???

Did they add any kind words to it?

It's not as if I could see you say anything apart from voice us your point of view or past experience even!! I mean if it was your choice of words that caused affence, how?, ...erm, I could not see anything blatantly rude, i.e. swearing, etc.

I dunno. Maybe they are little sensitive.

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Tue May 11, 2004 1:19 am

Yes, it's odd. I suppose they were just showing that they were reading the thread and didn't like what I posted. It hindsight perhaps it was a little harsh.

So I then wrote a very nice email to them suggesting very mildly that it might generate enormous goodwill to simply let people know what's going on since people were waiting to buy their products.

But nothing. Pity.

inDSP Frank · Post by **inDSP Frank** » Thu May 13, 2004 6:30 am

Situation is simple: currently CWA and Wine Country have no license agreement on the name. Therefore, CWA can not sell the ProOne because of the name rights. Also, Wine Country can not sell the ProOne because the actual technology and development is CWA's.

So for the time being, we will soon re-release our plugin under the name ProTone. There may or may not be a new agreement between Wine Country and CWA in the future.

BTW I have a much better opinion of Wine Country than what I read in this thread and I don't think such comments are in any way correct or appropriate.

Frank

sinix · Post by **sinix** » Thu May 13, 2004 9:29 am

CW Frank -

Please, please, PLEASE buy, license or release the Prophet version! Work with Wine Country on this! There are many users including myself that want to buy this synth or an improved version of it!

Reagards

deejaysly · Post by **deejaysly** » Thu May 13, 2004 12:37 pm

Good to hear that the Pro One could make a return once things are sorted out.

It WOULD be a big shame to lose out on the Prophet though I don't expect that to happen.

I hope others wishes come true.

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inDSP Frank · Post by **inDSP Frank** » Thu May 13, 2004 4:37 pm

We can't name the Prophet "Prophet" but we should see it in a couple of weeks.

Cheers, Frank

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu May 13, 2004 5:00 pm

Yikes and I haven't even bought the mini yet!

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Thu May 13, 2004 5:07 pm

Do i see a "Pro-Fat" coming?

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Thu May 13, 2004 5:10 pm

On 2004-05-13 18:07, piddi wrote:
Do i see a "Pro-Fat" coming?

Appropriate!

Post by **hubird** » Thu May 13, 2004 6:42 pm

good one!!

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:00 pm

Hey piddi, looks like John Bowen took you seriously - here's the revamped Proph@t, announcement here

johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:36 am

Hi All!

Just to announce - there's now a Demo version of the Proph@t Plus; please just send me a request.

peace!