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Ganool
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Post by Ganool »

<font size=+2>STEP-BY-STEP
GUIDE</font>

This is an exact description how to replicate my problems with MIDI controllers and Creamware Scope 4. Before I start I’d like to point out that my problems extends to many synthesizers, not just MINIMAX as I used as my example. I also noticed this with Pro-One (the Creamware version), Uberplastic (synth demo from Wavelength), and if my memory serves me right, Prodyssey as well.

<B>HOWEVER... </b>I have NO problems what so ever, with OLDER devices that uses the old big blue preset selector. I’ve tried it with Synchrome 1.2 – no problem and most of the older Wavelength synthesizers, such as Plastic, Coma and Avalon Euro. I had no problems with John Bowens version of the Pro One either.

MINIMAX EXAMPLE

1) Connect MINIMAX. Sequencer MIDI Source to mixer. You can see my exact setup <a href="http://www.lfo.se/scope_problems/scope4 ... g">here</a>.
2) I will use two preset sounds as examples: ’A True Classic!’ in Bank Creamware 1, and ’Attack Baz’ in the Peter Kirschker bank.

3) Double-click on ’A True Classic!’. It will sound like <a href="http://www.lfo.se/scope_problems/minima ... 3">THIS</a>.
4) Double-click on ’Attack Baz’ (patch number 8). It will sound like <a href="http://www.lfo.se/scope_problems/minima ... 3">THIS</a>.

5) Right-click on the RANGE knob for oscillator 1.
6) Manually enter the number 75 in the NEW box.
7) Click the MIDI + sign to assign the controller.

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8) Right-click on the RANGE knob for oscillator 2.
9) Manually enter the number 76 in the NEW box.
10) Click the MIDI + sign to assign the controller.

11) Right-click on the RANGE knob for oscillator 3.
12) Manually enter the number 77 in the NEW box.
13) Click the MIDI + sign to assign the controller.

14) Right-click on the WAVEFORM knob for oscillator 1.
15) Manually enter the number 78 in the NEW box.
16) Click the MIDI + sign to assign the controller.

17) Right-click on the WAVEFORM knob for oscillator 2.
18) Manually enter the number 79 in the NEW box.
19) Click the MIDI + sign to assign the controller.

20) Right-click on the WAVEFORM knob for oscillator 3.
21) Manually enter the number 80 in the NEW box.
22) Click the MIDI + sign to assign the controller.

Now we have assigned six different MIDI CCs to six different knobs. Should be like this:

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23) Go to the Creamware 1 Bank and double-click on ’A True Classic!’. It will now sound like <a href="http://www.lfo.se/scope_problems/minima ... 3">THIS</a>..

24) Go to the Peter Krishker Bank and double-click on ’Attack Baz’. It will sound like <a href="http://www.lfo.se/scope_problems/minima ... 3">THIS</a>..


I am currently thinking two things.

Why does'nt older devices have this problem?

Could this be related in _any_ way to the Pulsar I card? I know it sounds far-fetched, but as far as I read the Pulsar I can be a source of problems. I must, however, point out that I've got a Pulsar II as my "main" card.


Equipment
CPU: Pentium 4 2,2 GHz.
Memory: 512 MB.
Video card: Matrox G550.
OS: Windows XP Professional.
Sequencer: Cubase SX 2.02.
Scope version 4 (the latest available).
Creamware cards: two Pulsar II and one Pulsar I (16 DSPs in total).




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Post by Ganool »

A few more observations.

I've just removed the Pulsar I and my second Pulsar II card. No difference.

I also tried by running Scope in Classic mode. No difference.
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Post by Ralf »

Hello Ganool,

thanks a lot for this detailed description.
I will try to find a solution.

cheers
ralf

On 2004-05-05 15:58, Ganool wrote:
A few more observations.

I've just removed the Pulsar I and my second Pulsar II card. No difference.

I also tried by running Scope in Classic mode. No difference.
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Post by Ganool »

Thanks Ralf. If you need any more tests, drop me a mail.

Carl.
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Post by Jez »

Hey Ganool

Did you get a response to this? I have been having the same problem.

Jez
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Post by Ganool »

Nope. Ralf sent me an updated file before the summer. Nothing else happened since. I'll send another mail to him.

Carl.
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