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Post by erminardi »

I have only noticed the serious lack of a module to make the coffee... :lol:
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Post by ReD_MuZe »

theoreticaly, if you have a speeker loud enough you can use an oscillator to create friction in the water to boil them (kind of like microwave).

and theoreticaly with a weight and a strong speeker driver connected to it you can grind the coffee.

and theoreticaly with a robotic hand and an envelope you can automate the rest of the proccess.

its modular you can make anything!
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Post by wolf »

you can even turn the time back with it .. not just theoretically .. really ..

.. really.
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I don't see presets...


:lol:
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ReD_MuZe wrote:wavedraw in flexor1 :P
if the wavedraw is basically the same...
maybe it would be possible to get a wavedraw with "movement points" and a preset list.... or with such faders ?
:roll:
if a single dot falls away with the wavedraw pencil you already have a bit crush fx...
I know the assist but personally I find it a bit complicated to use.
maybe I`m too stupid. :P
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Post by decimator »

Wavedraw and Vaz Waveshaper are quite different in sound so I thought Wavedraw was optimised more ( ramp ) for wavedrawing than waveshaping :wink:
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Post by ReD_MuZe »

ah you want it interpolated
well
well see what i can do :P
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decimator wrote:Wavedraw and Vaz Waveshaper are quite different in sound so I thought Wavedraw was optimised more ( ramp ) for wavedrawing than waveshaping :wink:
decimator. there is a big difference in sound... even when wavedraw is set to the linear "unaffecting" setting, it does crush the sound a bit...
while the VAZ thing does not.

I`m sure it has to do with the 64 point resolution of wavedraw....
1 point always represents an amplitude input range . for example 1 to 512

now the question is how does wavedraw1 handles the different input values in one range and what output values come out for the different inputs...


does every input value from a range(f.e 1 to 512) get always the same output value y? I mean all values from one
range1(1..512) get the same new value (f.e 713)
and f.e. range 2(513..1024) get 912 and so on....
So the new waveform consists of only 64 values and it always sounds like a bit crusher...

in fact "that" vaz shaper - that we desire - seem to have lesser amount of points (resolution) like 16 sliders but it seems to interpolate the values from input ranges to the new values...
f.e. range1(1..512)
256 gets the full value 713
values lower 256 get calculated lower output values....
1 gets 1/256*713
2 gets 2/256*713
and so on....
values above 256 get interpolated between the 713 and the next points max/min value(in this example 912) and so on....

so the output values are smoothed out.

that means although it has lesser amount of points/sliders it will output the full amplitude spectrum from f.e. 16bit.

A bit hard for me to explain for me in english....
:P
But I think thats basically the difference...
and yes its very audible...

hope somebody understands what I mean.... :D
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Post by hifiboom »

ReD_MuZe wrote:ah you want it interpolated
well
well see what i can do :P
lol, I need half an hour to write down what I want to say in english, and then I see, RED already got the point.
:lol:
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Post by wolf »

you see ?
backwards into the future. all with modular.
:P
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Post by decimator »

Thanks ReD ! :D
And hifiboom for all the text :wink:
Well in the end I hope scopers will enjoy all the radical or subtle/ fast / tasty waves modifications of the VaZ Waveshaper ! :)
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decimator wrote:Thanks ReD ! :D
And hifiboom for all the text :wink:
Well in the end I hope scopers will enjoy all the radical or subtle/ fast / tasty waves modifications of the VaZ Waveshaper ! :)
I hope, too :D
as this is really powerful!

with the interpolated shaper, you really can shape everything everywhere you could expect.
The only waveform that is more or less unaffected is the SQUARE. :)

there could be a small (2 and 4 sliders to save DSP) and big one for more shaping posssibilies. (16 sliders)
and maybe versions with mod ins for realtime modification of the sliders...
:)
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wolf wrote:you see ?
backwards into the future. all with modular.
:P
jeah wolf
I know its the flux capacitor module
one of the secrets RED is holding back. :D

Image

"disconnect capacitor drive before opening"
caution "shield eyes from light"
:lol:
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Post by phatbob »

hifiboom wrote:
I want to meat the man
if you read carefully thats really funny....
Isn't it.....
BTW, you understood my thought.
I can't wait to buy Flex II

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Post by faxinadu »

amazing list!

you guys are such teasers!!!! :lol: :lol: :D :o
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steffensen wrote:Is there ny update on the already nice GFX aswell?
Yes we have updated the graphics somewhat so that the Flexor v2.x modules should have a distinctive look. It references the previous look but it somewhat 'harder'. I will try to post up some examples in a bit, I meant to do it after his lovely list was posted but I had a gig last night.
strav100 wrote::D :D :D :D :) :) :P :P :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :D :wink:

I'll get to work on the next .pdf manual if you haven't done one already when this lot comes out!!! It will take time...cor..there are SOOO many modules

:D :D :D :D
Actually strav I saw the pdf manual that was (thoughtfully) provided last time based on the html I built, it made me feel bad that you beat me to the job! Last time the manual involved other people before it reached me, so keeping up with the version changes was a chore. This time even if one shows up before the other you can be assured of both. I'm going to make sure that all changes are done to the core help document before propagating out to the published formats (PDF & html).
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Post by ReD_MuZe »

did i say 135?!
i meant 140
and yes i am keeping some stuff back
:wink:
be patient, it should be out a bit after messe.

now i need to start writing the manual ^$!#@$#?^@ !!!
:P
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ReD_MuZe wrote: be patient, it should be out a bit after messe.
sounds good!

I hope it doen`t need another month to get into CW shop.....
Or will it be available through adern homepage....?
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Awesome!!!
ReD_MuZe wrote:Delays
All Pass
All-Pass F
All-Pass S
All-Pass SF
Delay
Delay F
Delay S
Delay SF
Tempo All-Pass
Tempo All-Pass F
Tempo All-Pass S
Tempo All-Pass SF
Tempo Delay
Tempo Delay F
Tempo Delay S
Tempo Delay SF
Tempo Delay SF

Filters
AP-2_Resonator
AP-3 Formant
AP-3 Vowel A
AP-3 Vowel B
AP-6 Phaser
AP-8 Additive
BP-2 Granite
BP-4 Granite
BP-8 Granite
BR-2 Granite
BR-4 Granite
BR-8 Granite
CM-1 Flanger
CM-1 Phase
CM-1 Variable
CM-2 Chorus
CM-2 Cross
CM-2 Detune
CO-1 Basic
CO-2 Spice
HP-8 Razor
LP-3 Rubber
LP-6 Aqua
M2S Comb
M2S Phase
MF-2 Spice
MF-2 Swiss
MF-4 Swiss
SH-1 Destroy
WA-3 Wackah
WA-5 Quack
WA-8 Oohwah

Granular
Granular Delay
InterSeq16
InterSeq4
InterSeq8
Override Delay

Modulation
Draw LFO
Draw LFO XY
Pattern LFO

Oscillators
Aliasaw Simple Gate
Aliasaw Simple Sync
AliasawSimple
FR Pulse
FR Saw Double
FR Saw Flip
FR Saw Width
FR Saw-Tri
FR Saw
FR Square Double
FR Square Width
FR Square
FR Trapezoid
Fixed Formant
Soft Sync
String Simple
String Variable Sequencers

Shapers
Additive 16
Additive 4
Additive 8
Fuzz
Germanium Drive
Hard Drive
Heavy Distortion
Hexa-Drive
Neo Distortion
Ripple Drive
Smokey Distortion
Soft PWM
Squash
Thick Drive
Vanilla Distortion

Tools
Freq 2 Note
M-S Decoder
M-S Encoder
Matrix 8x8
Matrix4x4
Michu's Avoider
ModMix2
ModMix4
ModMix8
Note Driven Switch
Scale Tuning

Envelopes
Hyper D envelope
Vintage AR envelope
Vintage ADSR
MSE 1st Step
MSE Attack
MSE Loop
MSE Mid Step
MSE Release
MSE SustMod
MSE Sustain
MSEC 1st Step
MSEC 1st StepMod
MSEC AttMod
MSEC Attack
MSEC Mid Step
MSEC MidStepMod
MSEC Rel Mod
MSEC Release

Sequencers
Hyper Control Seq
Interpolated Control Seq
Ramp Distribute 32
Ramp Distribute 64
SeqJoiner32
SeqJoiner64
Mod Switch 16 to 1
Mod Switch 2 to 1
Mod Switch 5 to 1
Mod Switch 8 to 1
Mod Switch 1 to 16
Mod Switch 1 to 2
Mod Switch 1 to 4
Mod Switch 1 to 8
Thr Switch 1 to 2
Thr Switch 2 to 1
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