January Contest Gossip thread

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:34 am

Well, just like last time, here's the gossip thread to discuss any questions, or thoughts about the January contest.

First of all, I'd like to clarify that when submitting the contestant files, you submit an mp3 file in the music forum, and also the 2 patches plus txt description (zipped into one file) into the modular forum. So, you submit an mp3, and a zip. Both with the subject as SC-Jan-2003-tunename. This may still sound a bit unclear. Please tell me if you do not understand me fully. I'm worried about the non-English speaking people in particular.

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 1:14 am

So that would be two postings in the Modular area, one for each device ?

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 2:14 am

As asked before, in the other thread, I was wondering if I could use already made patches of MI and II, cos I can't learn it for the contest itself, is it must?

Spirit, you said no prob? Is it allright tho?

Second question: Can we mix both MI and MII, let's say, choosing one module from one and the other from two?

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 4:44 am

I just changed the naming scheme like this:
In the Music forum:
Subject: Jan-2003-ModIII-My_torn_liver
File: Jan-2003-ModIII-My_torn_liver.mp3

In the Modular forum:
Subject: Jan-2003-ModIII-My_torn_liver
File: Jan-2003-ModIII-My_torn_liver.zip
containing 2 patches, any presets, and txt documentation.

So the format is Jan-2003-Mod version-tunename.
I hope this is a bit more clear now.

As for using pre-existing patches, I think it's ok. Of course, it is recommended that you try to build your own patches. Anyway, try to be creative.

As for mixing MI and MII or III modules... Please use only MI modules for the MI section of the contest, and only MII and III modules for the ModII+III portion of the contest. MIxing them would result in a new voting field. Right now, we only have 2 votes. One for ModI and one for ModII+III. I'd like to keep it at that. I'll wait and see how things turn out though. If too many people say that ModI is too limited, then we might change the rules. But for now, don't mix the modules.

[ This Message was edited by: kensuguro on 2002-12-10 04:53 ]

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 3:12 pm

I got it Ken, thanks...

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 6:25 pm

the "mod2 or 3" contest could be defined by the presence of a mod2 or 3, and the other could be also a mod1.... but just an idea...
separating the two contests was just to avoid an handycap for those that don't have mod2 or 3 imo....

but well, only if the contest "rulers" agree...

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 7:48 pm

ya, if we get enough mod3 entries, we might as well make it a category of its own.

giucant · Post by **giucant** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 8:13 pm

For people not yet obsessed by floating virtual cables:
this is a great opportunity to make new presets of existing patches...: be creative!

good luck!

giucant

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:09 am

Check my example entry and things should go just fine.
Remember to put a link to the patch on your tune post, and vice versa. So they'll be cross linked. Saves a couple of clicks.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:28 am

It will also be useful to have everything important related to the contest as sticky for at least 20 days, and then, as John already agreed, the songs in the music area too, sticky so it's easier to find everything so nobody misses a song...

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:30 am

I wonder if John knows we're having a contest... haven't seen him around for quite a while ya know..

Post by **hubird** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 12:26 am

...also I didn't get an answer to a pr. q., so he must be very busy and/or far away!
but than...who did create the XTC forum...?

edit: John DID answer me, but I missed it.
Sorry!

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kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 1:44 am

by the way, how's the patching coming along? Anyone trying something strange? Current event reports? Any non-mod users having trouble? Anything?

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 9:36 am

Well, i mostly finish with wiring my 2 patches. I still creating a bunch of presets for the second one...

The first one is gonna be a drum machine, and the second one is 'kinda' my own try at replicating 'some' features of the vectron...

Going very well so far...

I'm enjoying Mod3 alot lately...I think planetz will benefit from alot of new patches with this contest btw...

Mod3 is much more powerfull than before imho. I love it! It sound SO much better than reaktor! But DAMN! Does it take DSP quickly when building complex patches!

How's your's Ken?

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 4:11 pm

I don't think I'll be in it for this contest.. not sure. Depends on my mood the day before the deadline. har har

Anyway, we're seeing some action. I know atomic's doing something with audio triggered drums. And Spirit wants to slow down LFOs. Eliam wants smooth filters. Just to name a few. Anyone else? Any stories to tell? (mod patching is always quite dramatic)

Herr Voigt · Post by **Herr Voigt** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 7:19 pm

Ken, when is the deadline? I would try something with only my self-made M1 multi-filter synth, without ANY external effects, only with the internal modular effects. Let's see ...

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 8:10 pm

Good report there Ken - putting together all the clues from other threads

I do enjoy putting together mod devices but I suffer from a terrible habit which makes t difficult to progress.... I'll put together a patch, think it's OK, start writing some presets, then think "I think I'll wire x to Y and put in an extra filter here". Suddenly all my presets are pretty well useless, so I start writing some more. Then I think "I'll just replace this oscillator..." You get the idea.

That's what's happening at the moment. I've got two versions of my "contest" patch and both keep evolving. And yes, they rely on slowing down LFOs which I'm finding easy, but messy. Any ideas on that are very welcome.

I also tend to switch between making a patch simple to "see" and program, or bulking it up with options, modulation possibilities and routings.

For drums I'll probably use my Strontium-90 patch with some new presets.

It's good to see other work going on too. I hope the fairly tough requirements about naming, links, and the size of the needed uploads (song + 2 patches) doesn't put people off...

Any other reports ?

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sat Dec 28, 2002 12:37 am

Spirit.. I know what you mean by the preset vs patch evolving dilemma. Always happens. The process of making presets usually brings out new problems or things to improve on.. and then I have to make all the presets over again.. ahh.. such is life for a mod patcher. hehe.

Anyway, Herr Voigt and anyone else who don't know the deadline, it's 10th of January 2003. Mod1 entries are more than welcome. The rule details are in the announcements forum.
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=10&7

If you're on narrowband, and don't want to take too much time uploading, I guess "tune only" is ok. But I'd definitely want to see the winner's patches. Anyone want the naming and uploading rules to be changed by the way? (it's quite changable)

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eliam · Post by **eliam** » Sun Dec 29, 2002 2:37 am

I'm having loads of fun here!!! I built my first patch 2 days ago and I can get up to 4 voices of polyphony on my Luna, so I'll be editing audio files a lot!!

Man, this synth is utterly stupendous! I think my roommates are beginning to have hallucinations!

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sun Dec 29, 2002 4:53 am

eliam, was it the first time you used mod? Then cool! I was hoping this contest would bring many non-mod patchers into the mod world.