USB2 audio hardware

Kymeia · Post by **Kymeia** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:24 pm

Is it possible to use a USB 2 audio device with Scope? I am thinking of getting a Line6 Toneport to complement my Variax - it looks great but I don't want to get it if it's not possible to integrate the sound into the Scope environment and mess with the sounds further (including use them in ASIO sequencers etc).

Post by **garyb** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:29 pm

not directly. asio is between a sequencer and ONE hardware device only for the most part. you might be able to connect through the sequencer, but that would likely add a lot of latency(and usb is neither reliable nor fast, although it's certainly useable..).

probably, using the analog outputs of the line6 would work great! i really doubt if you'll really suffer much degradation from analog. the digital connection is not automatically better.

arela · Post by **arela** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:01 am

Like NOAH with Scope, the USB acts fine as midi interface, but sound from NOAH must be routed to Scope.
Maybe something like "ASIO4ALL" (is that right?) can solve this.
It might be, you must, like garyb said, use the device's outs.

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:55 am

I saw that the UX2 has a spdof digital audio too, so that one can be used to get into Scope digitally while using Scope ASIO.

Kymeia · Post by **Kymeia** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:33 am

On 2006-02-21 02:55, alfonso wrote:
I saw that the UX2 has a spdof digital audio too, so that one can be used to get into Scope digitally while using Scope ASIO.

That sounds promising - does that mean you use the SPDIF instead of the USB connection for audio or do you still need to use USB as well?

arela · Post by **arela** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:56 am

both i think, usb for midi (controlls)
and s/pdif for audio. (or analog of course)
(But you dont need midi (usb) if you can/want to controll sounds and settings from your device

If you get clipping while using s/pdif, you must set Scope as slave.

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:04 am

On 2006-02-21 04:33, Kymeia wrote:

That sounds promising - does that mean you use the SPDIF instead of the USB connection for audio or do you still need to use USB as well?

No, you don't need usb in this case, you just make sure that Scope is set as wordclock slave to receive digital signal from the spdif output of the UX2 and you get in the scope environment just as any instrument that can be recorded through Scope Asio.
You will have the bonus of the USB connection to hook on laptops or other systems without Scope, where your UX2 will work as an audio card (almost...)

Getting inside through digital ports will spare you a couple conversions and it will be an advantage for the sound.

katano · Post by **katano** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:10 am

you need usb anyway, otherwise the line6 ux or even guitarport will not work. you need the software to control the unit...

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alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:15 am

On 2006-02-21 07:10, katano wrote:
you need usb anyway, otherwise the line6 ux or even guitarport will not work. you need the software to control the unit...

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But the problem was using it also as audio driver port, wich can't be done while using scope, so if it's only for software control that shouldn't be an issue...or I do miss something?

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:06 am

I have a similar setup from time to time: a USB card via S/P-DIF playing momentarily master for Scope - just for recording with 2 extra pre-amps... I don't use the ASIO drivers, the USB is too slow for decent latency and even if our sequencer could use 2 ASIO drivers, they'd need to be sync'ed.

If the Line6 card has S/P-DIF, you could do the same.