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A16 vs other ADAT A/D/A converters
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:20 pm
by st1
Hi,
I can see that people also consider their A16s with affection.
But do those boxes have any SCOPE-specific features that are not available on more modern equivalents from MOTU, Presonus or even Behringer?
(Coincidentally, some of the latter even have their own DSPs for effects!)
Re: A16 vs other ADAT A/D/A converters
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:24 am
by Liquid EDGE
They use z-link.
Re: A16 vs other ADAT A/D/A converters
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:20 am
by Bud Weiser
^^^^
this !
Bud
Re: A16 vs other ADAT A/D/A converters
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:57 am
by yayajohn
I think the original A16 (blue) did not have Z-link. So from what I've read it is just a really good reliable ADAT converter - no special features.
The A16 Ultra has the Z-link
Re: A16 vs other ADAT A/D/A converters
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:32 am
by st1
Ok, thanks for info.
AFAICT, the Z-Link doesn't improve or detract from an ADAT connection type.
It basically does the same thing over a different transport.
I have plenty of Z-link-capable cards, but also good numbers of ADAT-connections.
So for me, both options would be equal, connection-wise.
And given that analogue circuits wear out (especially those pesky electrolytes), I see no audio or functional value (beyond nostalgic purism / religion) in using the A16 <ultra> boxes for signal conversion instead of a 2021-produces box.
Thanks for clearing this up.
Re: A16 vs other ADAT A/D/A converters
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:29 pm
by Bud Weiser
st1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:32 am
... the Z-Link doesn't improve or detract from an ADAT connection type.
Z-Link doesn´t need SMUX for the higher sample rates above 48KHz.
You´d still get 16 channels I/O @96 Khz when using Z-Link,- vs ADAT 8 channels only @96Khz.
Bud
Re: A16 vs other ADAT A/D/A converters
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:32 pm
by valis
^ that
Re: A16 vs other ADAT A/D/A converters
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:33 pm
by dawman
Z-Link plus dip switches for using Hardware FX Pedals like Strymons….
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Re: A16 vs other ADAT A/D/A converters
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:17 am
by yayajohn
st1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:32 am
Ok, thanks for info.
AFAICT, the Z-Link doesn't improve or detract from an ADAT connection type.
It basically does the same thing over a different transport.
I have plenty of Z-link-capable cards, but also good numbers of ADAT-connections.
So for me, both options would be equal, connection-wise.
And given that analogue circuits wear out (especially those pesky electrolytes), I see no audio or functional value (beyond nostalgic purism / religion) in using the A16 <ultra> boxes for signal conversion instead of a 2021-produces box.
Thanks for clearing this up.
No nostalgia here just functional value
Did you also know that Scope can use both ADAT and Z-Link at the same time? I am currently using all of the I/O's on my Xite-1.
Most people do not covet their A16U's for the ADAT just so you know.
If you aren't going to use the Z-link on your Scope cards then I would suggest offering them for trade or at least trade the plates. There are always people looking for Z-link plates. (and sync plates even more)
Re: A16 vs other ADAT A/D/A converters
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:31 am
by Bud Weiser
Yeah,- another Z-Link plate and Sync plate would be welcome here.
I can trade a guaranteed to work Classic 20 plate (2x ADAT I/O) which I already swapped for a Z-Link plate.
Bud
