Loptop for sonic xore xite-1

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Loptop for sonic xore xite-1

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What's the model of loptop I can connect sonic core xite-1 for well work?

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MCMASTER STUDIO wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:57 am What's the model of loptop I can connect sonic core xite-1 for well work?

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I don´t have one yet, but investigated because I think about buying one too for SCOPE standalone work.
The easiest is possibly buying a used older Lenovo W-model workstation w/ p.ex. 4th gen Intel i7,- W 540 / 541.
They offer the larger 15,x" screen (vs Thinkpad models), SSD usage and have PCI Expresscard 34 slot.
Also the earlier models using 2nd and 3rd gen Intel Core i5 / i7 have, but then you might be forced to use Win7 because Win10 doesn´t deal w/ every hardware config well.

W540 / 541 work well w/ Win7 x64 and might also allow installing Win10.
Lenovo has good support and you find all kind of drivers on their website.

And,- VERY important,- their UEFI (BIOS) allows user access to energy saving options and Turbo Mode,- all you have to deactivate to work flawlessly w/ SCOPE.
Not all the other laptop brands allow access to these "features",- p.ex. the HP laptops offering PCI EXpress card slot didn´t.

In fact, I´m waiting for the right one in good condition and for cheap.

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HELLO

I have the thinkpad w540.
very good but i still have few random clicks.
but my xite is on rma so peraps the clicks are from that defected unit.
with laptops there is a thing that you have to considere :
the express card lost connection when you touch the cable.
in live performance this is potentialy a nightmare. or not...

nice day

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I own an HP Elitebook 8770w, which I'll try with Xite if I find the time.
This machine is 17' fullhd, can be upgraded to 32G and two sdd/hdd.
They're pretty cheap as 2nd hand and offer expressslot.
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Ditykman wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:19 am HELLO

I have the thinkpad w540.
very good but i still have few random clicks.
When ?
SCOPE in standalone mode or when using ASIO and a DAW application together w/ SCOPE ?
32 or 64 Bit ?
Win7 or Win10 ?
Ditykman wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:19 am but my xite is on rma so peraps the clicks are from that defected unit.
Did S|C confirm your XITE is defective already ?
Ditykman wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:19 am with laptops there is a thing that you have to considere :
the express card lost connection when you touch the cable.
Does that happen w/ every laptop offering expresscard 34 slot,- or only w/ yours and/or laptops using expresscard 54/34 combo slots?
And,- is it by reason of the dimensions of the card or unreliability of the expresscard slot per sé ?

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Getac X500 w/ Express can do DAW and XITE-1.
That’s very high end though, but that DAWg will hunt....
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dawman wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:51 pm Getac X500 w/ Express can do DAW and XITE-1.
That’s very high end though, but that DAWg will hunt....
But the price ... :lol:
https://www.cyclotron.de/getac-x500-g3- ... ner=Idealo

After I´ve read the specs, I´ve found out, Lenovo P51 workstation laptop offers the same proc in a case which, according to a test, offers very good cooling conditions for that processor.
It has Expresscard 34 slot and I see used ones, condition code A, w/ 32GB of RAM and 512GB SSD and Win10 Pro for about EUR 1.600,-.
https://www.lapstore.de/a.php/shop/laps ... 20HJS1C700

Lenovo P53 and P71 lack Expresscard 34 slot which is replaced by USB-C/ Thunderbolt,- but Lenovo P70 still has !

So, fastest P series workstations w/ Expresscard slots should be 51 and 70.

Leaves the question which one supports NVMe M.2 already.
Must investigate more ...

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Hello Bud,

In standalone mode there is no problème. For me, without asio, there is no problem.
I have got little few clicks under win 10 64 bits with asio.
I don't know if it is the computer or windows or windows + scope.

I don't know yet if my unit is defective.

For the deconnections I think all the express card do this it is a fragile connection anb the scope don't like it stops.

:wink:

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Bud Weiser wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:11 pm
dawman wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:51 pm Getac X500 w/ Express can do DAW and XITE-1.
That’s very high end though, but that DAWg will hunt....
But the price ... :lol:
https://www.cyclotron.de/getac-x500-g3- ... ner=Idealo
Getac is exactly why I get my parts lists and have a 1U built.
Faster, cheaper and if I play loud with no breaks in the music, you won’t hear the Drone Motors I have to use for fans.

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Ditykman wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:29 pm Hello Bud,

In standalone mode there is no problème. For me, without asio, there is no problem.
I have got little few clicks under win 10 64 bits with asio.
I don't know if it is the computer or windows or windows + scope.
Hello !

Good to know.
With a laptop, I´d use it standalone mostly,- maybe a handfull of assorted VSTplugins in addition together w/ a "lite - on - cpu" host like Bidule or such.
Ditykman wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:29 pm I don't know yet if my unit is defective.
Let´s hope for it´s not !
Ditykman wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:29 pm For the deconnections I think all the express card do this it is a fragile connection anb the scope don't like it stops.
I expected such problems might come up.
I already wrap my head around how to optimize such connection.

Did (do) you ever use Win7 Pro x64 (or x86/32Bit) w/ your Lenovo W540 ?
Random clicks w/ ASIO too ?


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let me be clear-

there are many reasons for pops and clicks in a system. in GENERAL, both PCI cards and XITEs in a properly running system NEVER have ASIO clicks, EVER.

some systems may have this problem, but it's not simply endemic.
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I’ll buy anyone’s PCI Card as long as it has 15 DSPs.
I need a rig on each floor.
You got clicks & Pops ...shoot me a price.
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Hello

Sonic core says that my xite has faulty mainboard so peraps it was that.

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Ok. I need a powerful loptop compatible with sonic core xite-1.
The other specifications:

CPU: i9 ~ 2,6 GHz can be 10th cores
Display: 17"
GPU: nVidia RTX 2080 minimum, Quadro with 16GB GRAM
MiniDisplay port
Real Thunderbolt port
3 x USB 3.1 or 3.2 ports

what loptop model can you offer?
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well, it has an Expresscard slot....
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Tech Specs
Processor •Up to 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-6820HQ Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.6GHz)........NO
•Up to Intel® Xeon® E3-1575M v5 Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.9GHz).....................................OK

Operating System •Windows 10 Home - Lenovo recommends Windows 10 Pro..............................NO
•Windows 10 Pro....................................................................................................... OK
•Windows 7 Professional - Available through downgrade rights from Windows 10 Pro

Graphics Up to NVIDIA® Quadro® M5000M 8 GB ................................................................16GB will be better
Memory Up to 64 GB DDR4 2133 MHz.................................................................................OK
Max. Storage Devices - 4 •500 GB 7200 RPM...................................................................It must be changed :) HDD 2TB 7200rpm
•1 TB 5400 RPM
•Up to 512 GB PCIe SSD

Optical Drive DVD-RW ..................................................................................................OK
RAID
0, 1

Power Supply
170 W, 230 W

Battery
8 Cell (96 WHr)

Dimensions (W x D x H) 16.4" x 10.8" x 1.17" - 1.2" / 416 x 275.5 x 29.9 - 31.5 (mm)
Display •17.3" 4K (3840 x 2160) IPS anti-glare......................................................................OK
•17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS anti-glare

Weight
Starting at 7.56 lbs (3.43 kg)

Color Sensor
X-Rite® Pantone® Color Calibrator (Optional)

Keyboard
ThinkPad® Precision Keyboard with Numeric Keypad and Backlit (Optional)

Ports •(4) USB 3.0, 1 Always-on Charging.............................................................................OK
•(1) HDMI 1.4..............................................................................................................OK
•(1) Mini DisplayPort™ 1.2 ..............................................................................................OK
•(2) Thunderbolt™ 3 .....................................................................................................OK
•(1) RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet .............................................................................................OK
•(1) Docking Connector ................................................................................................OK
•(1) Microphone / Headphone Combo Jack .........................................................................OK
•(1) Smart Card Reader (Optional) ...................................................................................OK
•(1) ExpressCard / 34 mm .............................................................................................OK
•(1) SDXC ..................................................................................................................OK

WLAN Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC (2 x 2) 8260 + Up to Bluetooth® 4.1 vPro
WWAN
Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ X7 LTE-A (Sierra Wireless EM7445)

Media Card Reader
Integrated 4-in-1 SD Card Reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC, MMC)
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as i already noted, this one has an expresscard slot.
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Is there any real professional here? I need a powerful laptop for video editing, design, sound design, 3D animation. Maybe you can name a specific loptop model?

Needed specification:
17" loptop
Intel CPU i9 (10th) 2,6GHz minimum
nVidia Quadro 16GB VRAM
Memory 64GB RAM or more
Real Thunderbolt
Mini DisplayPort
3 USB 3 series
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MCMASTER STUDIO wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:35 am Is there any real professional here? I need a powerful laptop for video editing, design, sound design, 3D animation. Maybe you can name a specific loptop model?

Needed specification:
17" loptop
Intel CPU i9 (10th) 2,6GHz minimum
nVidia Quadro 16GB VRAM
Memory 64GB RAM or more
Real Thunderbolt
Mini DisplayPort
3 USB 3 series
What´s up w/ you ?
This is an amateur´s forum throughout.
No one here does what you do,- that´s why YOU got all the jobs & gigs,- even in Corina times. :roll:

You post in a thread w/ your own topic "Loptop for sonic xore xite-1",- no ?

The Lenovo TP P70 HAS: (1) ExpressCard / 34 mm
So, you don´t need Thunderbolt at all for XITE-1, just only the PCIexpresscard cable.

I hope your special edition XITE model manufactured by Sonic´s daughter company XORE doesn´t lack any features and that Lenovo model is a Loptop :D ...
... and doing what you, as a pro, need in addition to SCOPE/XITE functionality.

Go and buy that thing, then tell us if it works.
We amateurs really need professional guinea pigs like you and already thank you in advance for upcoming results.

:wink:

Bud
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