The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...

[Nestor]

There are many opinions out there being mine one of the very many. I personally believe, with a deep sadness, that we are really close to the final conflagration that many of us have been expecting to happen for about 10 years already. I’m referring to the plans of the powerful and cruel ones: the eugenicists and the illuminati, these monsters are going on with their very egoist cause.

Here you have a few opinions:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... turn/8186/

http://www.opinion-maker.org/2010/08/is ... tack-iran/#

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/mid ... story.html

http://business.financialpost.com/2011/ ... -analysts/

http://www.newsday.com/news/iran-threat ... -1.3347858

http://hamsayeh.net/society/1370-callin ... lityq.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/ ... EO20111104

[garyb]

nah, they have neutron weapons for that.

sterilize a city, use it next week.

[Fluxpod]

Hehe...Media Hype got cha

Got friends in Iran and Libia.I am in quite close contact with em and ...they would know if anything was comming.Dont fall for the hype.Thats what i was told...by People who live there.If its Happening you wouldnt read in the Media about the start.

[garyb]

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[Nestor]

I would be delighted to get to know that this is nothing but some more noise, as it has always happened... after all, these ideas has been out there for 60 years already, but what is happening seems to be the repetition, more and less, of what happened when the IIWW started.

Hope you're both right, anyhow, this has already happened twice and back then it seemed impossible too:

[garyb]

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[valis]

Fwiw I don't know if things will escalate to the point of WWIII but imo the satellite photos of the Iranian nuclear installation taken the other day don't really look like an 'accidental explosion'...looks like there was already another bombing imo. So the response of having 'hired' protesters storm the British embassy isn't dissimilar to what happened to the US embassy back when there actually was one in Tehran, and since there *isn't* a US or Isreali embassy... Well things are still semi covert atm ('mysterious' explosions, 'random' protesters) but it's close to unprecedented to have 2 full carrier fleets from the US in the area, not to mention the(one by Syria facing down a Russian carrier group...

So maybe not full scale escalation but things are certainly a bit heated, and the news just hit that the US Fed. Reserve is busy bailing out a huge portion of the Eu banksters with 0.75% interest rates while still offering 'only' 3-3.25% here stateside...and that's 16trillion handed out overseas so far. Some would say that's shoring up Europe to keep things stable while the 'arab spring' continues...

[dawman]

According to the Bible we will lose a carrier group near the Strait Of Hormuz to the KIngs of the North, and this will trigger world wide war.
China will eventually march overland( KIngs of the East ) via Afghanistan and Pakistan to seize the entire Arabain Peninsula then split it up with Yanks as we barter away Israel. ( a Deal helped along by the Antichrist Obama )....

And the Lord sayeth, let Teamster jim and his new Solar Energy generator on a hitch follow him to the land of plenty, where he shall jam on Solaris forever, while eating Elk, Trout and Pheasant.

So It Shall Be Written, SO it Shall be done.

And FWIW, we Aren't bailing out Europe, we are making sure they have US dollars to spend on goods we make since nobody else is stupid enough to spend that kind of money for the junk we sell, unless it's military hardware which is costly but well made. But then again has anyone ever seen the Swedish Archer artillery howitzer, or the German Leopard II Tank.............??? That thing is the bomb, and the Best Mig Pilots in the world are Germans. They train here at Creech and Nellis with the Blue Angels, we see them all of the time. Im afraid the Germans will just have to give away more of thier paychecks to cover the mistakes that other poorly run countries did, so the EU should thank Germany as they are doing better than Spain, Greece, Ireland and Portugal. The Brits, they have had money since the days of Druids, they aren;t going anywhere. The House of Lords will make sure the scraps given to the peasants will keep them well fed and divided as they have since the days of William Wallace.

The problem with EUrope is like with most Socialism, eventually you run out of other peoples money to spend.
And many countries invested in real estate to support thir ponzi schemes. Their bad actually. But I am quite sure their elites, and various Kings & Queens were let into the Players CLub using the Caymen Islands or the Vice Presidents' Brothers' Hedge fund accounts in Antigua. Afterall that's where our nobles have thier investments.

[hubird]

I personally believe, with a deep sadness, that we are really close to the final conflagration that many of us have been expecting to happen for about 10 years already. I’m referring to the plans of the powerful and cruel ones: the eugenicists and the illuminati, these monsters are going on with their very egoist cause.

the usual fantasies of individuals with not much political and historical understanding, leading to antigouvernmental thus antidemocratic sentiments ('Obama is a fascist' and thelike).
Yeah, let's ask for a strong man who can take it all over, someone who everyone can trust...
Oops, didn't we try that already with that old general, Pinosomething?

Thanks Gary for letting me know that Worldwar III has started already.
I'll write a note to my favorite newspaper that they missed something...

[dawman]

Your favorite newspaper does as it's told or loses advertisement money, just like any media Parrots.

One thing to remember though.
THe needs of the Many outweigh the Needs of the few , or the one.

Spock........In the Wrath Of Khan.......1982.........United Artists.

[Mr Arkadin]

Thanks Gary for letting me know that Worldwar III has started already.
I'll write a note to my favorite newspaper that they missed something...

Actually you should check out Niall Ferguson's The War of the World documentary (book or TV version). It's a lot to take in (I need to watch all 5 hours again) but the basic premise is that the previous century was just a 100 years' war rather than individual WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Cold War, First Iraq War etc. It would be easy to surmise that Afghanistan, Second Iraq War and possibly upcoming Iran War are all part of that one continual conflict. There's more to it than that, but yes, perhaps WWIII, the war for resources, has already started in the sense that the world is always at war.

[dawman]

Strategic ports of entry like the Panama Canal have been purchased by the Chinese so they can get more American Coal to Shanghai quickly, and then barges can send that resource all the way up the Yangtze to the 3 Gorges Dam where the worlds largest locks reside. We actually helped them build the carrier they recently revealed and the Stealth fighter.
Our defense industry isn't stupid, but love pretending to be, it only means we have better 5th generation filghters and we are paying back Chinas massive debt with intellectual property and technological achievements for a very high price. Add the Panama Canal and GaryB's very own port of Long Beach and it's easy to see the chessboard is set up for resources.
Lithium in Afghanistan, Oil in the Middle East, etc.
We have an amazing amount of resources here in the USA but will not tap into those until we believe the Suadis have reached peak Oil production. It has nothing toi do with a 1000 EPA protestors getting inthe Media spotlight.
It makes perfect sense. Like changing the slogan of Global Warming to Climate Change...you can only have Big Al and so many rallies in the Snow before you become wiser with your slogans and words.

Praise The Lord. The Meek Shall Inherit The Earth, which in a few years means some dirt in Somalia or the Congo.....

[Nestor]

I personally believe, with a deep sadness, that we are really close to the final conflagration that many of us have been expecting to happen for about 10 years already. I’m referring to the plans of the powerful and cruel ones: the eugenicists and the illuminati, these monsters are going on with their very egoist cause.

the usual fantasies of individuals with not much political and historical understanding, leading to antigouvernmental thus antidemocratic sentiments ('Obama is a fascist' and thelike).
Yeah, let's ask for a strong man who can take it all over, someone who everyone can trust...
Oops, didn't we try that already with that old general, Pinosomething?

Thanks Gary for letting me know that Worldwar III has started already.
I'll write a note to my favorite newspaper that they missed something...

Well, I would not like to be at your place of understanding right now man…, honestly, because you will need to wake up from a faraway and deep personal dream, and waking up from there up to the real world, up to here where we are now, will be a long way to go through. If you don’t wake up by yourself while you have time, you will have to do it by the force of events going forcefully through a tremendous emotional crisis. You know that I don’t like to discuss or get into aggressive writings and the so, in fact, I will never do it. What I’m saying is what I really think, it is not a game of words losing your time and mine. I’m serious!

The matter that WWIII has already started or not started, it is just a definition, it doesn’t matter really how we call it, but for sure, something enormous is coming up, as governments have never in history spent these outrageous amounts of money for weapons and war materials, these weapons frenzy have never been seen before.

The international crisis is bigger than ever in history as well, as many more countries are getting involved into difficult struggles of interest. War technology is now widely available. We are no longer in times where Israel needed help from the French to develop their weapons of mass destruction, nor in the times of Russians needing help from the Chinese. All powerful countries are in the same position of knowledge in regard to the atomic bomb, and many other ways of mass destruction. People’s frustrations have rised to dangerous amounts as well, there are revolts everywhere. Solar explosions are influencing deeply our psychology and climate is becoming heavier. Market is oversaturated. What else can you expect from a situation like this, but a general conflagration?

I have always been very clear about the fact that we cannot know what is going on exactly. Of course not, all these matters are well hidden, anyway, through WekiLeaks and some serious people out there fighting against this frightful ignorance governments want us to be immerse, risking their lives to inform the world, we are now in a clearer position and can assert that something truly massive is happening and coming in the following months. I have never believed, since I was a child, any newspapers or tv information, etc. I have instinctively been distant and watchful instate. I am not so writing something I have read, it is much more a matter of instinct than knowledge. Knowledge and general information today is rather confusing and misleading, so, the only way to guide yourself is through your own understanding and instinct. And my instinct is telling me this: Danger is in front of you! I don’t care us much about so many theories and explanations as the observation of what is going on.

[garyb]

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[Nestor]

who's actually at war?

not me.

If you are referring to my writing, no , you are not someone in war with others here. You tend to be cool even when you get into sensible things that touch you, you are someone with which we can always “talk” and understand each other, instate of fighting. I feel very comfortable with you and your attitude, even if I don’t agree sometimes with what you are saying.

Here's some info about it:

http://tatoott1009.blogspot.com/2011/12 ... assed.html

Here it is the law and its explanation in a short text:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/2 ... 19473.html

[Nestor]

I'm not sure what you mean by this one:

Yes Nestor I tend to agree to your view of garyb when it comes to easy access to self proclaimed victims.

Anyway, your thoughts seems pretty romantic to me

[garyb]

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