DAS FM07

A space for learning and studying the Scope environment and music-making in general.

Moderators: valis, garyb

User avatar
dante
Posts: 3846
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: Melbourne Australia
Contact:

Re: DAS FM07

Post by dante » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:55 pm

It has a Modulation parameter, for the mod wheel sensitivity. Other than that, of you set any of the operators to a low frequency, they become low frequency oscillators.

auricle
Posts: 145
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:59 am
Location: Moscow

Re: DAS FM07

Post by auricle » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:34 pm

dante wrote:It has a Modulation parameter, for the mod wheel sensitivity. Other than that, of you set any of the operators to a low frequency, they become low frequency oscillators.
Thanks for the info, Dante. But the operators would only affect pitch. How would I control an operator's volume, for example?

User avatar
dante
Posts: 3846
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: Melbourne Australia
Contact:

Re: DAS FM07

Post by dante » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:22 pm

Probably just with the modulation parameter, using the mod wheel. I havent checked to see whether its pitch or amplitude though.

User avatar
Marco
Posts: 1104
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:27 pm
Location: Germoney

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Marco » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:45 pm

I think, guys, when you wrote thus here, you was younger thn today. I get a little risk and buy the 07 pack with some wpianos.

I tell you if i like :D it or not. :evil:
Scope 7 user since 2017 and Scope user since 1998. :o

User avatar
Marco
Posts: 1104
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:27 pm
Location: Germoney

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Marco » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:34 pm

I have the codes, first try, Guys buy this phantastic FM stuff. . . . . man Im happiest girl ever!
Scope 7 user since 2017 and Scope user since 1998. :o

User avatar
Roland Kuit
Posts: 670
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:42 pm
Location: NL/SWE
Contact:

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Roland Kuit » Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:27 am

The simplicity to create a complex sound in FM is so basic and mature, I love it!
Logic and elegance bundled together.
Avant-electronic composer | synthesis research | lecturer
http://www.rolandkuit.com/

User avatar
Marco
Posts: 1104
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:27 pm
Location: Germoney

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Marco » Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:58 am

The fmo7 has such easy tuning knobs, just turn around and get happy. I thought it would be more difficult to get a useable sound out of this fm box. But the parameters are useful.

Dear Roland, Im shure you know an understand each parameter, but I give a sh#t, the resul is importanr, Im not a scientist or sound engeneer, I wanna make MUSIC, and Im happy, if there was somebidy who devwloped a musical tool.

When I feel the good vibration, then its good enough for me :D

Thank you DAS and sonic core and scientists
Scope 7 user since 2017 and Scope user since 1998. :o

User avatar
Roland Kuit
Posts: 670
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:42 pm
Location: NL/SWE
Contact:

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Roland Kuit » Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:19 am

Dear Anabella,

I was talking about this instrument and its synthesis.
I was not talking to you.
And as ever, I find your reaction rude and offensive.
I wish this forum had an ignore knob.
I would certainly use it for you.

Till now, your remarks has shown an enormous stupidity centralized in one person.
You write your music in capital letters. But I haven't heard anything from you.
Nor will I.
My music is recognized, as such, on an international level.
My books about synthesis are used by international universities.
I give concerts on international stages.
So please don't react on my posts anymore.
It makes you look more stupid.

Thank you.

And another thing:
An other alarming issue is the way you speak about other music.
As is where "entarted"(degenerated).
Nazi's did this while dealing with art they didn't understand,
when it was dangerous for them because of autonome thinking.
anabella wrote:Oh Martin, have you been im Türkei Urlaub? you could sell this in Istanbul :D
to strange for german ears
_________________
Wenn du deutsch reden kannst, dann schreibe auch so......

Never heard of the word '"Bitte"(please)?
Avant-electronic composer | synthesis research | lecturer
http://www.rolandkuit.com/

User avatar
ShogunSpy
Posts: 313
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:28 pm
Location: San Francisco
Contact:

Re: DAS FM07

Post by ShogunSpy » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:41 am

Well said Roland !

fra77x
Posts: 889
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2001 4:00 pm

Re: DAS FM07

Post by fra77x » Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:58 am

anabella wrote:
Oh Martin, have you been im Türkei Urlaub? you could sell this in Istanbul :D
to strange for german ears
But Martin didn't get offended... instead they start discussing in german... Because Anabella didn't talked offensive. She just recognised the eastern element on the tone, and made a statement about "common german ears" Nothing really special on that..
:-) Danke für Deine lieben Worte, Annabella! Wie witzig, die Vorstellung! Mein letzter Türkei-Urlaub ist schon 'ne Weile her... Woher kommst Du? LG Martin

User avatar
Roland Kuit
Posts: 670
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:42 pm
Location: NL/SWE
Contact:

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Roland Kuit » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:17 pm

Ok Fra,
but my music burns well (figure of speech).
Avant-electronic composer | synthesis research | lecturer
http://www.rolandkuit.com/

User avatar
Marco
Posts: 1104
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:27 pm
Location: Germoney

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Marco » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:24 pm

The problem is, that many foreign people think, that all germans are nazis. And the germans are so stupid to say yes we are, and built one holocaust memorial after the other. . . . . who else is so stupid? No wonder that the germans are nazis forever. I wasnt born before 1945, I was notthere. . . .

And sorry, when im a consumer of sound and instruments, no matter what technic there is behind. I said Im happy that there are people and scientists, specialists who spend their lifetime to make good sound possible.

thanx for all
Scope 7 user since 2017 and Scope user since 1998. :o

fra77x
Posts: 889
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2001 4:00 pm

Re: DAS FM07

Post by fra77x » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:25 pm

What do you mean burn well? It is "weird" music it is supposed to gather different or negative oppinions. Do you believe that you can present the most "difficult" forms without any comments? By my knowledge it is common for "strange" material to get down votes and even get satirized, it's not only common but there are times that the artist is looking to actually cause that kind of responce. Look the surealists "scandals" for an example. I can't believe you are taking that stuff so seriously... A critic and a satire is not a burning. We are living in 2014.

User avatar
dante
Posts: 3846
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: Melbourne Australia
Contact:

Re: DAS FM07

Post by dante » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:37 pm

Roland Kuit wrote:The simplicity to create a complex sound in FM is so basic and mature, I love it!
Logic and elegance bundled together.
Yes, the challenge was to find the simplicity within the complex. With FM, the simplicity was in the fact that the bottom operators are carriers and the ones stacked on top the modulators. So, if you want to affect loudness or the balance of one 'stack' against another you modify the carriers. If you want to affect timbre, you modify the output of the modulators.

The different algorithms then just become different options for the user to make these adjustments to timbres or volumes. For an organ, you need a horizontal algo, for a sitar you need them stacked. With 2 stacks of operators, you can make keyboard split, with one carrier scaled to the left keys (bass) and the other scaled to the right hand keys (melody).

Therein lies the simplicity once you understand it.

Same with different genres of music, some may be accessible, others less so. If you only listen to accessible music where you don't have to 'search' for the meanings then that's all you will hear. If you do spend the time in types of music that are not 'jumping out' at you then you are exploring sound in a different way. You either then find something or not, depending on how much you listen as opposed just 'hearing'.

User avatar
Roland Kuit
Posts: 670
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:42 pm
Location: NL/SWE
Contact:

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Roland Kuit » Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:04 pm

I don't believe and didn't write that all Germans are Nazi's.
Far from that!
But the way my music was dealt with was like it was entartet art.
I can put examples here from the other threats but it is ok.......
On the forum I've put the history of Electr. Music.
And even my concepts as a part of my work process.
I don't make music to provoke people.
I hope to share new sonic horizons.
I hear a lot of music I don't like for many reasons.
If I don't like it, I don't feel the urge to share that.
If you don't understand it, you can always ask questions.
The why's and how's. Then you can learn.
Avant-electronic composer | synthesis research | lecturer
http://www.rolandkuit.com/

User avatar
Marco
Posts: 1104
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:27 pm
Location: Germoney

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Marco » Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:53 pm

no problem roland. sometimes i m crazy, not everyone is amuzed, but lot of people understand most is. joke :D
Scope 7 user since 2017 and Scope user since 1998. :o

hubird

Re: DAS FM07

Post by hubird » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:51 pm

To add my opinion: guy Anabella's comment is picked up totally wrong, and his last replies seem to show that.

His (clumsy) sincerity has not to be confused with negativism of agression, tho it doesn't always look empathicly.
He obviously can't help he wears his heart is on his sleeve, and mostly he compensates this already with some funny elements.
More of my concern is his unfocussed way of posting, but that on a side line.

@ Anabella: the more jokes one makes the more clown he gets to be, after he reaches the tipping point...

@ Roland, with Fra77x I say if you make this kind of extremely conceptive music you should be prepared in having to 'explain' it, or giving a context :)
The lable 'art' can't be an excuse not to do, on the contrary even.
If it's 'just' music it would be only a matter of taste or i.e. modular experimenting.
I know, you did explain on other places, but some need it more often and in line, without quotes.

The link to 'entartet art' is shooting at an elephant to get the mosquito, if you ask me :lol:

User avatar
Roland Kuit
Posts: 670
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:42 pm
Location: NL/SWE
Contact:

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Roland Kuit » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:04 am

Avant-electronic composer | synthesis research | lecturer
http://www.rolandkuit.com/

User avatar
Spielraum
Posts: 228
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:11 pm

Re: DAS FM07

Post by Spielraum » Wed May 21, 2014 6:26 am

f07 on Xite very unstable
occasionally with DSP4 failure!
fail purchase for me :evil:

PCI evasive-key was not granted me :cry:
no reply yet...
|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅] Lange Welle ~ Mittelwelle ~ Kurze Welle ~ Ultra Kurze Welle

Post Reply