FLU_LIQ_del 0.8

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:08 am

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0.1: BEYLO
Yesterday I chilled and relaxed 1/2 day in front of sdk (after a longer break where I used only sfp for making musik) and this is the result. The plan was to build a less static device. I tried BEYLO on boring pads and it adds some "beyond-logic". Yes, most changes are VERY subtle. It does some subtle things on whole mixes too. It's just a first experiment in that direction.

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0.6: FLU_LIQ
Now BEYLO is called FLULIQ !!! No, that's not the only change ...

I like it

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0.8: FLU_LIQ_del
Walle! walle
Manche Strecke,
daß, zum Zwecke,
Wasser fließe
und mit reichem, vollem Schwalle
zu dem Bade sich ergieße.

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:28 am

BEYLOmmm has an added Tape-Modulation-Mudder-knob (or call it multiband modulation monster). which sounds really very interesting... Try it out!

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:54 am

Thank you

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:38 pm

Hey Martin,...................The hell with pads.

Put this on a Fender Rhodes sample and turn it into Liquid !!

I wish I could control the Modulation speed / rate a little better.

You could make a hardware stompbox pedal w/ this.

I can only say thanks, and hope you tweak this a little further.

It makes my Rhodes samples sound like they are rolling through water!!

This makes my Rhodes very unique sounding.

Any tips on the controlling of the overall rate would be appreciated as I wish to use this immediately.

Thanks So Much For This Afternoon Dream Of Yours.

Right Up My Alley.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:20 am

Great addition. My only criticism is that the control legends also follow the subtle theme (ie. i can't see them and they're labelled BND and DRV etc.) OK i can figure it out but what's wrong with bright words Martin?

Also some functions have no labels at all.

Anyway i'll just fiddle with the knobs till i get a sound.

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:06 am

1000 thanks for your motivations! It's cool to have som nice feedbacks for something you thought: "Wow, I built something really sp(a/e)cial." So this will be definitively improved more in the near future.

Jimmy, there are LLOOTTSS of parameters under the surface. That's the reason, why I did not implement presets so far. I have no concept for all these parameters being implemented userfriendly. O.K. Changing overall speed shouldn't be a big problem... hmm... but to be precise: There are 16 (yeah!) speeds involved

. Imagine selecting speed, different waveforms & depth for every single LFO + even some secret

parameters more which should make sense...
To have these things controllable is exactly what I want too, but even the simplest way (just adding a hughe control-surface) needs some time...

I'll give my best, but I can't promise anything before the next weekend. Sorry.

Mr Arkadin, your subtile critism has been heard & I'm thinking about subtile improvements

Martin

pollux · Post by **pollux** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:53 am

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

I moved last weekends, and my DAW is still in it's box...

My hands shake waiting to test this

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:58 am

I made some improvements, but I won't upload a new version now. I think I found a great solution for a userfriendly interface for that FLUID control but it's just 50% ready. Thanks Jimmy for your inspiration.
If everything works as it should you can use and edit 4 own (or predefined) modulation-matrixes and variate them in speed with one knob.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:09 pm

My Inspiration ???

You are the inspiration Martin.

I forgot about trying to create a Liquid effect long ago as phasers and flangers and chorus always introduce artifacts that I wasn't seeking.

I know this is what I have yearned for years ago.

I use to try a slow phaser on a rotary, you name it, and could never get it.

This has to be the one that escaped me, but was captured by you.

You have made so many nice things that work really well, but you hit this one out of the park IMO.

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:36 pm

Done.
- no presets so far
- matrix-panels disabled

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:42 pm

I can't describe how pleased I am w/ this.

It's just.........liquid-ee. It doesn't add any muddiness that is usually associated with chorus or flanging effects. Although I can achieve those tyupe of effects, they also are very clean as you so graciously included filters, and frequency contours.

This is my favorite ever Rhodes effect, and my favorite device from you now.

I still don't understand some of the dual knobs ( gray ) that number in pairs and have 4 sets, but I am assuming they correspond to the Frequency controls.

The Mode knobs are a great source of additional textures as well.

I can only imagine what this sounds like on Guitars.

This should be made as an effect pedal, it would sell, trust me.

Below is my first attempt at Nirvana w/ my Scarbee Rhodes, I stopped as soon as I got close to the sound I crave so much. It will become better after tonight.

If sound could be made into a picture, this would be a crystal clear picture of Lake Tahoe, placed inside of a bigger frame of a solid background color, with the picture of Tahoe jiggling around, but remaining visual clarity the whole time???

Fuck It,........Just put this on a Rhodes like shown below, and tell me what effect you have ever heard that can do this w/ such tweakability.

Serious Strength And Honor.

pollux · Post by **pollux** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:44 am

scope4live wrote: can only imagine what this sounds like on Guitars.

Give me a couple of weeks to finish my moving and have my DAW up and running again and you'll certainly find it out

zangsta · Post by **zangsta** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:58 am

Thank you very much, Martin !!!

I tried the FLU_LIQ with the guitar for a while, and I can assure you,
this is the best I´ve had since the Electro Harmonix ´s Electric Mistress, way back in in the mid-seventies, and not near as noisy as the Mistress.
In fact, it´s possible to make an almost exact copy of the Mistress´s sound, minus the noice, wich I don´t miss.
Great work, Martin !!
Jimmy, by all means, DO try this with the guitar!!
I was tired and uninspired but could almost not stop playing with it,
after having found a nice setting.

Now it´s just a matter of getting the preset-facility, and it´s a WINNER.
I agree with Jimmy, this would sell as a hard-ware unit !

Cheers
Jörgens

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:09 pm

Any MP3 demo available here???
I'm just curious...

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:22 pm

Zangsta How Right You Are.

I had an Electric Mistress on my Rhodes ( hardware ) for years into a pair of stereo Bose speakers.

This was the closest I ever got to Liquid sounding FX, and it was the first thing I thought about when I demo'd this.

It's sitting on top of the CS80, but wired to the Rhodes.

zangsta · Post by **zangsta** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:39 pm

"Notice the silver box w/ the black stripe and green writing.............Remember that? You must be an old BASTARD TOO !!............I Pulled some mighty fine trim at that gig."

I do remember, and I was born in the 1950ies....

I actually have the Mistress around here, somewhere..., but something is dead on the circuit-board. Could probably be fixed by someone a bit more into electronix than me.
I was playing with a band in Ottawa in the fall-76, and on a visit to our singer in Montreal, some guy showed up, and plugged a Mistress into an amp in a room, played a few licks that sounded like Hendrix was back, using my Les Paul SG, handed it to me and I was absorbed for hours.....WOW !!!!

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:05 pm

I own an original big muff by the way... but I could never get a real usage for it except creating total chaos... sold my phase100 two years ago... shit happens.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:50 pm

Josef Zawinul ( R.I.P. ) had some of the finest technique and effects on a Rhodes in the history of that fabulous invention. I often find myself using Wax-S Wah-Wah w/ Celmo's Pro Vintage Delay inserted into it to achieve those tones. There is a song off of the Heavy Weather album called " A Remark You Made " that had a layered Grand Piano w/ a Rhodes and phaser that was drop dead geogeous. I have come close to it, but never really nailed it, as the noise associated w/ most modulation effects added excessive noise.

Liquid has nailed it to the wall. The natural harmonics of the Grand Piano w/o reverb layered w/ a Rhodes and this, and of course a touch of the PCM91 on the Rhodes is perfect.

I only need that nasty pop up window for no presets to disappear. I really don't use presets on an effect of this quality, but assign a few CC's on the KS88 and do them on the fly.

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:39 am

Very very nice

thanks once again!

7XL · Post by **7XL** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:25 am

I like this quite a bit. My only dislike is the dark GUI and cryptic labels.

Thanks.

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