MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by haba » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:56 pm

there were stormy times...:-))))))))


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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by Marco » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:29 pm

:o This looks incredible expensive. I don't need such a hyper Network System at home. I keep my good old scope and good. Im a musician And not a technican or an engeneer.
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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by Liquid EDGE » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:50 pm

Blah
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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by Liquid EDGE » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:11 pm

So I wonder if salzbrenner and this http://drenkelfort-audio.com/index.php?id=544&lg=en are a good pairing for the target users.

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Post by inDSP Frank » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:35 pm

why us first and why do you want/need us at this juncture in your venture?
Ronnie:
I am just handing out an invitation.
Much of it is courtesy. As in: when you throw a loudish party you invite your neighbors to join in.
You're free to hate it or come around and enjoy the party! But you have not been left out.
You will understand that I still care for SCOPE.
Informing you first simply spells my respect for this community.

Also is my firm belief that In today's world you have to enable and connect communities.
That's what successful businesses do today. Because it's beneficial to everyone, it's that simple.
Either you manage to network your community thru win/win propositions or your community will stay isolated and eventually dry out.
Being in a battle mode totally drives people away and is an unsustainable position these days.

If I found this community wanted to be left alone, then I would have misjudged PlanetZ
- but I'd have no issues to respect that as well and move on.
There are other things to do trust me :)

Does this answer your question?

Holger:
Sorry I did not mean to offend you on a Monday morning.
Please reserve your judgement until you know what the actual proposition is and what is at stake.
Then you will either come to the party or you will not.
You still are on my list for an appointment. Let's meet and talk, I'll send you an email tomorrow.
It'll be an important dialog on the future of this community and I'd think you'd like it.

- Frank

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Post by inDSP Frank » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:43 pm

Relax, the POLARIS evolution and MPA have much in common but they could hardly be more different as products.
LE in case you were asserting Holger and Salzbrenner or their respective products were competing - I don't think they actually would.

- Frank

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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by Mr Arkadin » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:30 pm

inDSP Frank wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:35 pm
Holger:
[...]
You still are on my list for an appointment. Let's meet and talk, I'll send you an email tomorrow.
It'll be an important dialog on the future of this community and I'd think you'd like it.

- Frank
I'm no business expert, but maybe this is where you should have started before announcing anything here. I think it would have been a more positive route.

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Post by Liquid EDGE » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:06 pm

inDSP Frank wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:43 pm
Relax, the POLARIS evolution and MPA have much in common but they could hardly be more different as products.
LE in case you were asserting Holger and Salzbrenner or their respective products were competing - I don't think they actually would.

- Frank
To the contrary. I was saying it looks like they complement each other. No?

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Post by Liquid EDGE » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:17 pm

Mr Arkadin wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:30 pm
inDSP Frank wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:35 pm
Holger:
[...]
You still are on my list for an appointment. Let's meet and talk, I'll send you an email tomorrow.
It'll be an important dialog on the future of this community and I'd think you'd like it.

- Frank
I'm no business expert, but maybe this is where you should have started before announcing anything here. I think it would have been a more positive route.
I agree. I think you will also find the community respect holger in a way you possibly might not understand. He kept the greatest audio system going. And the way you talk about the history of it. You turned your back on the system and the community. It lacks a level of respect not getting in touch with him first.

The MPA sounds interesting. But us here want him to focus on scope for Xite first. It seems SC has worked very very hard to get scope 7 done. We don’t want to rock the boat of focus.

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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by Liquid EDGE » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:37 pm

Also, another reason scope Xite is so great is that it is intergrated with a pc. Best of both worlds, interconnected with zero laytency.

I can pretty much do anything I can imagine with my studio as it is now.

But anything that adds to Xite I’m interested in.

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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by dawman » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:44 pm

And deposits are being taken for a 1U Solaris now too.
I can’t begin to describe the value of an XITE-1 and Solaris digitally connected.

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Post by faxinadu » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:20 pm

woah.. that sure escalated quickly :0
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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by inDSP Frank » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:35 am

To the contrary. I was saying it looks like they complement each other. No?
(Liquid - Sorry I got you wrong.)
Yes it does!
Synergy all over the place.

There is no development required from Holger.
The dock is actually done.

Only the question whether it will dock to SCOPE 4 or SCOPE 5/6/7/8/9/X.
For all MPA concerns, SCOPE 4 is perfectly fine and enough.
But maybe not for this community.

- Frank

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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by faxinadu » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:57 am

could u give more info on WHAT it is???

afaik scope4 is almost phased out and scope6 does not exist.
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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by Liquid EDGE » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:12 am

Would this dock actually connect to the Xite?

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Post by Liquid EDGE » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:16 am

I get a feeling that frank is basically saying. If holger does not agree he will just go ahead and do it with scope v4 and “Xite users will get left behind” as he puts it. I could be wrong, reading it wrong.
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Post by faxinadu » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:22 am

does anyone still use scope4 ??? lol i think u guys overestimate the amount of people that still use scope, so to do any product for 4 is kinda funny, for 2 people ;)
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Re: MPA: A whole new Chapter for SCOPE and you are invited

Post by Liquid EDGE » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:30 am

Blah
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Post by inDSP Frank » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:48 am

You turned your back on the system and the community.
It simply was the best scenario for everyone. In 2007 working with Holger towards that he would take over further development was the best I could do for the platform. SC actually needed me to "turn my back on the platform" to do the XITE and do maintainance for the continuation of the community. We spoke and met an agreement and that was good, no doubt about it.
It lacks a level of respect not getting in touch with him first.
Hmmm Yes I see you reading it like that. Indeed I did not think much about Holger other than he should be doing really well with MPA becoming synergetic with SCOPE. We may not be close friends and we have no tradition in consulting each other on our agendas. But I totally respect his role and achievements. I'll give him more time to evaluate the proposition. Peace.

- Frank

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