Reason 12 is almost here!

[Bud Weiser]

Or just like to complain that they can't use something in the way the latest & greatest all them they have to. We were here at the beginning of the slaving of musicians to the technology cycle, and it continues unabated.

My biggest issue still remains: Time

Cannot agree more !



Bud

[Sounddesigner]

Waves just upgraded their StudioRack chainer channelstrip plugun, and it now Hosts ANY VST3 plugins from ANY developer and not just Waves plugins. This might be a good way to use VST3 plugins in Reason. I will definitely try it as StudioRack is a nice plugin on its own.

StudioRack can chain up to 8 Waves and Other developers plugins and has 8 Macros for controlling multiple plugins simultaneously. It gives any plugin Multiband, MS, Parrallel processing capabilities, and can do sidechain. It can offload Waves plugins to the Soundgrid server with near-zero latency.

StudioRack is a fit for me so i'll definitely try it with Reason since i believe it is VST2 and vst3 like the rest of Waves plugins. Waves have been slowly creating a complete Ecosystem for themselves with StudioRack, Superack (for Live Sound), Soundgrid Servers, and interfaces, etc.

StudioRack is a FREE plugin - https://www.waves.com/plugins/studiorac ... in-chainer

[Bud Weiser]

Waves just upgraded their StudioRack chainer channelstrip plugun, and it now Hosts ANY VST3 plugins from ANY developer and not just Waves plugins. This might be a good way to use VST3 plugins in Reason. I will definitely try it as StudioRack is a nice plugin on its own.

StudioRack can chain up to 8 Waves and Other developers plugins and has 8 Macros for controlling multiple plugins simultaneously. It gives any plugin Multiband, MS, Parrallel processing capabilities, and can do sidechain. It can offload Waves plugins to the Soundgrid server with near-zero latency.

StudioRack is a fit for me so i'll definitely try it with Reason since i believe it is VST2 and vst3 like the rest of Waves plugins. Waves have been slowly creating a complete Ecosystem for themselves with StudioRack, Superack (for Live Sound), Soundgrid Servers, and interfaces, etc.

StudioRack is a FREE plugin - https://www.waves.com/plugins/studiorac ... in-chainer

So, usable in Reason 12 only when running latest Waves v14 (Win10 /11) version ,- or offered the v9 / v10 the same VST3 hosting functionality for Win 7 Pro SP1 x64 too already ?
Does it run in Reason 11.4.3 ?



Bud

[Sounddesigner]

I looked on Waves website Bud, and unfortunately Studiorack is only compatible with Reason 12 and with Regards to Waves plugins compatibility only v13 and v14 can run in Studiorack v14. Some of my Waves plugins are v12 wich mean i'll need to upgrade a few plugins for compatibility with Studiorack.

StudioRack also only runs on Windows 10 and 11, 64bit.

Waves plugins are usually the cheapest on the Market amongs comparable competition at around $29 and Studiorack is free, but i think you spotted the catch, wich is your forced to occassionally upgrade. Some people hate their system but i seem to get ahead so i don't mind it.

[Bud Weiser]

I looked on Waves website Bud, and unfortunately Studiorack is only compatible with Reason 12 and with Regards to Waves plugins compatibility only v13 and v14 can run in Studiorack v14. Some of my Waves plugins are v12 wich mean i'll need to upgrade a few plugins for compatibility with Studiorack.

StudioRack also only runs on Windows 10 and 11, 64bit.

Waves plugins are usually the cheapest on the Market amongs comparable competition at around $29 and Studiorack is free, but i think you spotted the catch, wich is your forced to occassionally upgrade. Some people hate their system but i seem to get ahead so i don't mind it.

Thank you !
I got the plugin serial because I still have an account @Waves,- and I recognized it is because I bought a Waves Renaissance special edition bundle in the past which I didn´t use anymore.
It´s v4 !

So, in theory, I were able to use it together w/ Wavelab 4.01b on a Intel P4 WinXP machine,- but I read I cannot activate anymore what I bought in the past for 500 bucks,- just because their Waves Central installer doesn´t run on XP.
Instead they offer upgrading to WUP for a fee,- insane.
That´s what I hate when I read "Waves".

Anyway, I´ll test the plugin on my Win10 Lenovo workstation laptop which handles audio/MIDI fine.



Bud

[dante]

Reason has just released ver 12.2.8d49 which reportedly fixes issues with Radeon based cards. Dunno if my Gigabyte GTX1050 is Radeon based, but it seems to have fixed the issues !!

Will test more - but happy so far.

Update : 10 mins later. Nope. Works if the color scheme is set to 'Blue' but if I try to change it back to 'Normal' it blows up again

Going back to Reason 11....

[Bud Weiser]

Going back to Reason 11....

Plz tell what´s in RSN 12 one urgently needs,-
"Mimic" (sampler) ?



Bud

[dante]

Urgent ? Nothing for me . That’s why I don’t mind going back to 11. From memory there’s some hi res graphic stuff, which is probably the cause of the issue. But yeah - the Mimic is cool but I’ve only used it twice

[dante]

My Reason 12 is fixed now. After PC kept bluescreening and not booting at all, I removed this sucker and replaced it. Now Reason 12 works fine

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[dante]

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I´m a Reason 11 user ...
You CAN record and mix w/ Reason, but compared to other DAWs there are a lot of limitations.

And actually, there´s no VST3 support for plugins


Bud

There is now. VST3 Support for Reason just dropped......

https://www.reasonstudios.com/en/reason ... ease-notes

My Waterfall B3 now works in Reason and can 'learn' up to 8 parameters, so now mod wheel controls the Leslie Rotor speed

So Im a happy camper.

[Sounddesigner]

Reason 13 is comming June 18th! BIG improvements to Sequencer, Browser, and GUI. Plus 5 new devices and Editing Tools. The new VA Synth and Space-delay/Reverb sounds amazing!

I do believe Reason Studios are the best VST-instrument developers in Native World right now and Reason is the best Workstation plugin right now IMO. Reason can do things the other big Workstation plugins can't do that matters to me such as Effects-Synthesis, as it allows for Audio-Input. I can run my Voice and External instruments threw Reasons Granular Effects, Glitch Effects, and Voice Synthesizers. The other Supersynths generally don't allow for Effects-Synthesis wich is a valid form of synthesis thus a major flaw! Plus Reason is a more sophisticated Workstation as it is truly a DAW and this WILL matter more and more as the DAW side is further developed. Omnispher, Reaktor, Falcon, Zebra, etc are not sophisticated DAWs, nor can they match Reason's Creative-Physical-Modeling (OBJEKT and Friktion), most/or all can't match Reason's Drum-Machines/synthesis capabilities, and most don't have Audio-input Effects-Synthesis!!!

My poor vision forced me to leave Reason as a DAW but with the new upgrade i hope to go back as i love making music in Reason. The highly sophisticated Routing and all the Sequencers and other devices that make that Routing powerfull all make Reason pretty special to me.


For Audio-Demo's and more info on Reason 13 go here - https://www.reasonstudios.com/new-in-13

[Bud Weiser]

I´m not convinced ´cause I don´t understand why the simplest MIDI features aren´t implemented in Reason at all.
MIDI program changes don´t work in Reason, not to forget to mention SysEx,- and since ReWire is abandoned, Reason Studios were unable to deliver an equivalent replacement w/ the Reason Rack plugin,- which itself needs to be MIDI multi timbral to be such.
WHEN Reason Rack plugin would work like p.ex. a NI Kontakt Multi, I´d buy the Reason upgrade in a heartbeat,- but AFAIK, this feature is again not implemented.

I understand what you´re talking about above ´cause these features might be important for what you do, but in my world as a keyboard player and using Reason mainly as a sound source inside a/my main DAW app, the development of RRP VST3/VST3i making it a fully fledged MIDI multitimbral device hosting 16 virtual instruments or Combinators on 16 different MIDI channels, responding to MIDI program changes and individual MIDI controllers is more important.
Last but not least,- that also would help running Reason standalone as a "quasi" super multi instrument/ tone generator.
In fact, there´s a REASON why I still use Reason 10.4 w/ ReWire in p.ex. Presonuns Studio One Pro.
And I do although I own Reason 11 too.

And although I mentioned lack of VST3 support in Reason above and some time ago,- I hate VST3,- just because VST3 abandoned MIDI program changes.
IMO the best DAW apps w/ fully fledged MIDI are still Apple Logic Pro and Reaper.
Cubase/Nuendo possibly too,- but I didn´t use for too long to be sure about.

Sequencing and editing features in general,- I don´t need/use too much.




Bud