Can't record from ASIO with Ableton

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Can't record from ASIO with Ableton

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I can set xite-1 as asio audio device in ableton. I can see and hear audio on a track with source set to asio, but when I push the record button, audio and scope freezes. I have to reset Scope's dsp (message: communication lost) to get it running again.
I can record from other asio devices though. Anyone with the same experioence or any ideas, how to fix it? (S/R is 44.1k, original sound comes from AES/EBU, goes through STM 16. But direct connecting AES->ASIO doesn't work either).
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right click on the Live icon and choose "Properties".
click on the "Compatibility" tab.
put a check in the box for "Run this program in compatibility mode for" and choose Windows 7 or Windows 8.
close and save the Properties setting.

start Live and it should work.
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garyb wrote:right click on the Live icon and choose "Properties".
click on the "Compatibility" tab.
put a check in the box for "Run this program in compatibility mode for" and choose Windows 7 or Windows 8.
close and save the Properties setting.

start Live and it should work.
Doesn't work. Not for Ableton 32-bit nor 64-bit.
Another observation: Scope freezes, even when I use a different ASIO device. Ableton does record then.
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then there's most likely an issue with the setup. that's a very unusual behavior. many people use Live. no error messages, just Scope freezing? the rest of the computer still works, no cntrl-alt-del? irq?
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garyb wrote:then there's most likely an issue with the setup. that's a very unusual behavior. many people use Live. no error messages, just Scope freezing? the rest of the computer still works, no cntrl-alt-del? irq?
Yes, only scope freezes. When I remove something, the error message (can't connect to board) appears. After restarting scope, it works again. And only when I push the record button. Until then, no problems.
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when you remove something? what do you mean?
what error message? please post a screenshot.

pressing the record button shouldn't affect Scope in any way. is there some kind of software monitoring on? perhaps a feedback loop?
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Remove: a connecting between AES/EBU and ASIO out. I tried to use Adobe Audition, but this prgram doesn't even see Scope. I'll reboot and check the cables.
I tried the same with wave-out and found no problem.
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I got that error message usually when I was having cable problems .
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Testing with odeus gives thios message. Hmm, something wrong with my project?
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well, it should be ok for testing...
have you changed a project's asio setup with the sequencer open?
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No, I didn't. But it seems the whole mess came from installing something different. I went back to a previous image and ASIO is working fine.
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well, at least it's working even if there's no obvious reason for it...
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garyb wrote:well, at least it's working even if there's no obvious reason for it...
Right! But with Scope, you'll never know the future :D
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Re: Can't record from ASIO with Ableton

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you never know the future with anything, but this didn't seem to have been a Scope issue.

computers will always have surprises as long as the operating systems change every other year. actually, they can be screwy even with a stable platform, but with a constantly changing environment both hard and software, and a business model that requires new sales and products at least once a year, there will always be bugs.

the point is to have a machine that does what you need it to and then use it to death, or that's my modus operandi. i've noticed that playing with technology is also a reason for people to use music production software and hardware. actually, that's also fun...
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Re: Can't record from ASIO with Ableton

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Re: Can't record from ASIO with Ableton

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garyb wrote:you never know the future with anything, but this didn't seem to have been a Scope issue.

computers will always have surprises as long as the operating systems change every other year. actually, they can be screwy even with a stable platform, but with a constantly changing environment both hard and software, and a business model that requires new sales and products at least once a year, there will always be bugs.

the point is to have a machine that does what you need it to and then use it to death, or that's my modus operandi. i've noticed that playing with technology is also a reason for people to use music production software and hardware. actually, that's also fun...
I fully agree, no Scope issue! And the rest is also true.
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