waldorf Osc sync???

fra77x · Post by **fra77x** » Mon May 07, 2001 2:59 am

is there a way to sync the waldorf oscillators???

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Mon May 07, 2001 3:41 am

this is a cheap reply, but just use a wavetable like "sinsync"

I bet that is not what ya want to hear though . . .

fra77x · Post by **fra77x** » Mon May 07, 2001 3:48 am

can u be a little more specific???

algorhythm · Post by **algorhythm** » Mon May 07, 2001 8:29 am

if you sort thru the available wavetables, you will come accross numerous ones which are synced oscillator sounds. If you need a reference chart, I made one and upped it to the files section of the Pulsar-Scope List serve - groups@yahoo.com I find it really handy to have next on hand to find particular settings of the Waldorph Oscs. Should I up this thing to planetz somewhere too?

fra77x · Post by **fra77x** » Mon May 07, 2001 11:15 pm

thanx but -is there a way to make a sync signal out of a waldorf oscillator to provide a sync slave oscillator?

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Thu May 17, 2001 10:04 am

Interesting idea, but I'm not sure how that would work. Let me explain why I'm having trouble with "sync" on a wavetable oscillator:

Waldorf uses half-cycle waves for each wave in the wavetable, and inverts them to get the other half. The wavetables in the uWaveXT each have I believe 64 waves, and the Waldorf wavetable oscillators have exactly have that, so only 32 waves. You can get some awesome evolving sounds by sweeping through the wavetable with an LFO.

In fact, sweeping the table fast enough will cause distortions as the wavetable osc attempts to keep up with the rate at which you're sweeping it -- causing it to jump to the next wave in the wave table without finishing the wave it's currently playing!

Now, because of the inversion to obtain the "other half" of the wave and the fact that each "oscillation" is in fact controlled externally via an LFO or envelope, etc, I'm not sure sync would make sense. Does that satisfy your question?

So, you could use the same source you're using to sweep the wavetable to control the other oscillator to get them to sync... Try sweeping the second wavetable with the NEGATIVE amount of LFO1, and the first with a POSITIVE amount of LFO one so that the sweeps go in opposite directions.

One nice advantage the Waldorf Osc have over the uWaveXT itself, is that you can have more than one wavetable loaded... right? On the uWave, you can only have one distinct wavetable at once.

fra77x · Post by **fra77x** » Thu May 17, 2001 11:26 pm

thanx for the response... i'll try what u are suggesting...

well i worked a modular patch based on the softsync method from nord modular and i changed the synced oscillator with a waldorf wavetable providing frequensy control from a modulated sync out signal from a master sync oscillator... i haven't finished it but i beleive that i am close (i have uncontrollable formants)

fra77x · Post by **fra77x** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 1:10 am

I read in a document about waldorf micro xt
that the wavetables can be hard synced to the normal oscillators... is it a specification on the waldorf oscillators or can it be reprodused with the modular?

massusen · Post by **massusen** » Wed Jun 13, 2001 2:07 pm

I had a MicrowaveXT and the sync-function was indeed fun. If you find a way to sync two Waldorf-oscillators, could you please tell me how you did it?

fra77x · Post by **fra77x** » Thu Jun 14, 2001 11:44 pm

The waldorf Oscillators can't be sync...
Maybe in a future update...

Peezahj · Post by **Peezahj** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 4:36 pm

I've temporarily uploaded a Waldorf Sync patch to my site, get it at http://www.jrrshop.com/Eric/Waldorf_Sync.mdl; I'll try to leave it up till Tuesday. While it's true that you can't use the Waldorf Osc has a sync slave, using it as sync master is a uniquely different alternative to the other sync master oscillators.

-Eric Dahlberg

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 7:09 pm

Eric, Clever

SyncMaster, very good idea. I didn't see a Sync input but that doesn't mean you can't sync other oscillators TO the Waldorf.

Only problem, is you can't sync TWO Waldorf OSCs... or is there a way around THAT too?

Peezahj · Post by **Peezahj** » Sat Jun 16, 2001 8:49 pm

Did you try the 3 presets? Those are all w/ the sync pulse wavetable on the Waldorf, switching to other wavetables has a drastic effect.

fra77x · Post by **fra77x** » Mon Jun 18, 2001 12:11 am

Hello to everyone -i can't find the patch!
please upload it in planet z or could someone explain me how to use the waldorf oscillator to provide a sync master signal...

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Mon Jun 18, 2001 7:39 am

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Peezahj · Post by **Peezahj** » Mon Jun 18, 2001 12:39 pm

I don't want to waste space in the files area for just a silly little demonstration patch, though I could go ahead & really make something out of it if enough people request it. Honestly, there are a lot of patches on Planetz that ought to be taken down (including some of my own) & I've no intention to add to the clutter.

John Cooper · Post by **John Cooper** » Mon Jun 18, 2001 12:47 pm

Hey eric,

I'm about to embark on the house-cleaning of the site, but i'm wondering how to decide what to take down and what to leave up. It's gonna be rough. Ultimately what i'd like to do is have all the patch/device developers tell me which ones to leave up, and if they don't tell me, then they get taken down. But i know that some of the developers are no longer around and/or no longer active, and i'd hate to take down legitimately cool stuff.

we'll figure something out.
-john

Peezahj · Post by **Peezahj** » Tue Jun 19, 2001 2:50 am

How about an mp3.com-style rating system like I mentioned earlier? That way what stays up would be decided on by the users & the best patches would always get the most attention (by being on top of the list).

I'd appreciate if you'd get rid of my "Midi Volume Fader-Stereo & Mono" patch, I only put it up to show people how to get around the old master faders' zipper problem. I still use it, of course, since it's cleaner than the BM v2b.

fra77x · Post by **fra77x** » Tue Jun 19, 2001 3:41 am

is the freq out signal similar to the sync out master signal??

what about amp mod a master sync out signal with the waldorf freq out?

John Cooper · Post by **John Cooper** » Tue Jun 19, 2001 7:46 am

On 2001-06-19 03:50, Peezahj wrote:
How about an mp3.com-style rating system like I mentioned earlier? That way what stays up would be decided on by the users & the best patches would always get the most attention (by being on top of the list).

yep, i'm implementing topic-rating, and you'll be able to sort the list by rating.

I'd appreciate if you'd get rid of my "Midi Volume Fader-Stereo & Mono" patch

ok, done.

thanks as always for the suggestions and help
-john