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I avoided getting Z Link.
Wanted an A16 Ultra, but my XITE-1 is months old, the other XITE-1 was 7 years old when I traded up for a new one.
The Behringers are brand new.

The whole rig sits in a 6U ATA, with a 4U ATA for the PC.
A small stack considering what it does.
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garyb wrote:6, same as the D.
it's kinda immaterial. as i said before, the XITE-1 is about 6-10 15dsp cards in power(90-150 of the old dsps).

it is not the Sharcs that are 1st and 2nd gen, it's the cards. dsp generations are NOT like cpu generations. newer ones aren't necessarily better and old ones aren't necessarily worse. it's more about the correct choices for the use. both types of Sharcs in all Scope products are intended for audio applications and use basically the same instruction sets. there aren't 3 different Sharcs that have been used, only two. the old Sharcs are still a current Analog Devices product. ALL of the PCI cards use the same chips. the XITEs use the same chips plus some newer, more powerful chips in addition to the old ones.
Ok. So the Xite-1 basically has the equivalent of 66 old dsp raw processing power, and other resources account for the xtra 24-84 dsp processing power, rendering in total the equivalent of 90-150 of old dsp.

That is quite a lot; it is indeed much more powerful. Before opening this thread I had the impression the Xite-1 had only the equivalent power of 18 old dsp.

Given this I suppose then the Xite-1/D is much more powerful than the equivalent processing power of 34 old dsp.
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dante wrote:XITE-1D (when available) = 6 old Sharcs + 4 new
XITE-1 = 6 old Sharcs + 12 new.

Theres more info here http://www.hitfoundry.com/scope/ - select XITE-1 from the menu (right hand second row).
Thanks for the info dante.
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dawman wrote:
Paprika wrote:
dawman wrote:I am running an entire live band with the XITE-1.

Just 2 Black Lion Audio ADA8200s modified and 3 x hardware FX.
Plus all of my ASIO Samples, hardware analog synths, Solaris and select Native synths like Zebra2 HZ, Piano Teq and Keyscape.

Great sound.
Everyone says great sound; guess I'll have to check that by myself :)

3 x TC Fireworx
2 x ADA8200 Black Lion Audio Mods
RP562 Bellari Tube Sonic Exciter for Mains (VoodooLabs Mod using Analog Devices OpAmps + 2 x RCA 5751 Command Tubes)
XITE-1

QSC KW Series PA 2 x KW181 18" Subs, 2 x KW153's and 2 x QSC K12 Wedges

Stereo FOH, Stereo Monitors.

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Nice setup dawman.
Thanks for showing it :)
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jksuperstar wrote:And 98% of devices run on either new or older sharc DSPs. The new ones are backward compatible with the old code...they simply run faster and more efficiently to get the large improvement in performance.

Only a select few devices have a *harder* time running on the xite.
Like Zarg stuff... which I've heard is awesome... That is sad :( , any idea if there are plans for it to be fixed?
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Thanks gary, but I can't buy at this moment.
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Zarg synths work on the XITE, but not with a lot of polyphony. they're really fat, though. it depends on what you are doing whether you actually need a lot of polyphony.
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Zarg Solaris on XITE is underated, especially since there is also Solaris Core, a stripped down version of the full flagship Solaris. There are workarounds to take advantage of and yes the Zargs are fat bastards.

Here for more info and on QWave as well for running them on the XITE-1D (let alone the full XITE) :

http://www.hitfoundry.com/issue_26/sol_mast.htm
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garyb wrote:Zarg synths work on the XITE, but not with a lot of polyphony. they're really fat, though. it depends on what you are doing whether you actually need a lot of polyphony.
Good to know that. Not a big deal for me.
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dante wrote:Zarg Solaris on XITE is underated, especially since there is also Solaris Core, a stripped down version of the full flagship Solaris. There are workarounds to take advantage of and yes the Zargs are fat bastards.

Here for more info and on QWave as well for running them on the XITE-1D (let alone the full XITE) :

http://www.hitfoundry.com/issue_26/sol_mast.htm
Ok, thanks for letting me know. I'll check the link.
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the sample OSCs of the Zarg synths don't work in 64bit, but that is for all hardware.
the regular OSCs work fine in 64bit.
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dante wrote:Zarg Solaris on XITE is underated, especially since there is also Solaris Core, a stripped down version of the full flagship Solaris. There are workarounds to take advantage of and yes the Zargs are fat bastards.

Here for more info and on QWave as well for running them on the XITE-1D (let alone the full XITE) :

http://www.hitfoundry.com/issue_26/sol_mast.htm

Sadly it looks like Zarg's website is gone. I just went to http://www.zargmusic.com/ and that website is gone and the domain seems to be for sale. Atleast John Bowen still sells many of his devices on SonicCore's website but not all are there. One may have to email John to see if Solaris-Core is still for sale since it isn't on S|C's website. All of the main devices are on S|C's website wich is good and ensures no purchasing problems hopefully John still sells the other less popular devices via email.
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Sounddesigner wrote: Sadly it looks like Zarg's website is gone. I just went to http://www.zargmusic.com/ and that website is gone and the domain seems to be for sale.
You could always try http://forums.johnbowen.com/
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Bovski wrote:
Sounddesigner wrote: Sadly it looks like Zarg's website is gone. I just went to http://www.zargmusic.com/ and that website is gone and the domain seems to be for sale.
You could always try http://forums.johnbowen.com/

Yea, I know he can still be reached, I just was saddened and surprised that his website was gone.

But it's good you posted a link to his other website for those who are interested in contacting John Bowen for device info.
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