Motherboard Recommendations

[BoBiS]

I want to build new PC to run scope pci card, there is any recommendations for modern motherboards?

[David]

These posts are in the Tech Talk thread, there's lots of info there on motherboards for pci cards

http://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33869

And

http://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=17078

[dawman]

Check out the Asus C236 Xeon board with 3 x PCI.
So much for dated protocols....

Look at the Xeon E-1285 v5
Incredible CPU.

[53E7]

+1 for Xeon boards.

I have a Supermicro X8DAi w/ Xeon CPU's and it is the most stable PC I've ever had. I'd say any reasonably recent Supermicro mobo w/ PCI slots would be a great choice. Just check for a good deal on eBay. That's what I did.

Try to stay away from AMD boards. I made that mistake for many years. I'll never go back to AMD.

[garyb]

many of the latest Supermicro boards have not worked well.

[53E7]

OK I have to say, when I first set up my Supermicro X8DAi I had many problems with it. But as it turns out, the board is just very particular about its components, the order of things, and is very inflexible in general. For example it didn't like the power supply I already had. It will only accept certain variations of RAM. The order of the SATA drives is important. Things like that....

Apparently this is well known (after some internet research). Supermicro boards are for business and science so their tolerances are different than gaming or enthusiast boards. I can attest that once you learn how they are meant to be set up, they are very reliable. I get the feeling that I won't need another music computer for a very long time. That said, Gary has seen more and knows more than most here, and really, I wouldn't want to go through all that trouble again myself to be honest.

[garyb]

no, they've always been great in the past! they're extremely well-made and support is top-notch!
i've been very disappointed in recent results.

[dawman]

If you have a working Supermicro youre set.
Just do not upgrade the BIOS unless its absolutely necessary.

My grief came from the OCE Series and dual boot options.
My H170 is fast but refuses to allow ASIO Drivers to remain active.
Even after disabling audio drivers it still shuts down any drivers that arent native.

Stick with Z97 or Xeon based boards.

[Bud Weiser]

My H170 is fast but refuses to allow ASIO Drivers to remain active.
Even after disabling audio drivers it still shuts down any drivers that arent native.

And this issue is what ?
OS (software) or hardware ?

just asking ...

Bud

[dawman]

I wish I knew as that board has incredible stability with voltages.
Top shelf parts and the thickest PCB Ive ever seen.
But the dual boot and overclocking firmware was the priority.
And the BIOS seems incomplete compared to the ASRock Asus UEFI.
I got an i5 6500 screaming @ 4.4ghz RAM Stuck @2133mhz due to chipset limitations.
Thought I was hot shit.
Then I cried when ASIO Apps kept getting the portaudio 64 message meaning the drivers were accepted but the souncard stopped sending information.
At least thats the way Bidule log.file described things.

XITE-1worked great.
12 MVerb Pros 13th caused dsp overload.
But nobody can explain the problem.

Went to a Z97 and had the same problem but on that BIOS I used the UEFI and finally got the audio driver stable.

The driver/sound was not letting me disable it in device manager either.
After going from Windows 10 to 7 that solved the problem.

But now Windows 7 NVMe driver wouldnt let Samsung drivers work.
Went to 8.1 and fixed that.
Lots of stupid systems integration shit which I blame on Micro$oft and thier planned obsolescense bull shit.
Each OS is suppose to be the same but they sure made Supermicro boards turn into picky little bitches.

Having said that, the C7Z9i OCE with i7 4790k is an ASIO Beast now.

Noticably faster feel/response with the OS on NVMe.
Makes everything fast and accurate when loading presets while playing that use to need time.
Omnisphere 2.1 DUAL LIVE MODE progress bar use to be yellow.
I never even see it with the STEAM folder being on the NVMe device.

But if I were to guess the H1I0 Chipset is the problem and the overall complexity of the newer non Xeon boards is a challenge.
But glad I jumped into them as once they are set up and working they are pretty amazing.
Testing voltages on anh board theres always some voltages hotter than normal, never less as overvolting is easier to do. But this board never shoots high and levels off.
Thier parts used and experience are nothing short of efficient.

I just hope they lose thier AMI BIOS and go all in on Intel UEFI dropping the legacy stuff.
I like plug and play not plug and read 30 pages of scientific shit.