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babaorum
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VDAT for bounce

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I often read that VDAT sound is better than other stuff (in sequencer daw for exemple).
Do you think that if I record only the mixing file (final bounce) of a stereo track in VDAT I'll have a better sound than if I just export from cubase the wav file ? (to import the VDAT file in wavelab for the mastering)

thanks,
baba
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Re: VDAT for bounce

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up !

what's the better routing for you ?

1) mix cubase > vdat > wavelab > export
2) mix cubase > export > wavelab > vdat
3) mix cubase > vdat > wavelab > vdat

?
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Re: VDAT for bounce

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Hi :-)

Multi out Cubase to Scope via Asio or Adat ->
Mix and Sum in Scope ->
Vdat

It's important to Sum as many tracks as you can in Scope (So Less in Cubase) to really feel something change with Vdat

it's just my experience
if we begin to speak about audio sum ... this is a never ending subject :-D
Just try different things and find your way, the way it's sound better for you and your ears
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Re: VDAT for bounce

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Ho yes it's already that I do with cubase in 10 output asio bus , ok so I record the mixing in vdat.
I'll try this for my next project, I'll do the 2 and will compare.
Thanks for your comment,
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Re: VDAT for bounce

Post by Liquid EDGE »

Hey cool idea.
I do keep reading that Vdat sounds better.
I'm similar. Most of the summing and mixing happens inside scope (stm mixer) and i have been routing the stereo out back into cubase for a final stereo recording.
Will try vdat out for recording the final stereo file.
But doesn't vdat anly do mono files? How do you record a final stereo interleaved .wav file?
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You must paste the two mono files in a stereo one.
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Re: VDAT for bounce

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babaorum wrote:You must paste the two mono files in a stereo one.
So just open up soundforge (or wavelab if thats what you use), create a new blank stereo file and then copy in the the left and right mono files vdat created into it?
And then when saving the stereo file with soundforge nothing will be lost from the vdat nicness?

Cheers.
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Don't ask too many questions - It's black magic you know...
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Re: VDAT for bounce

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petal wrote:Don't ask too many questions - It's black magic you know...
Whats black magic then?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D
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Re: VDAT for bounce

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Liquid EDGE wrote: So just open up soundforge (or wavelab if thats what you use), create a new blank stereo file and then copy in the the left and right mono files vdat created into it?
And then when saving the stereo file with soundforge nothing will be lost from the vdat nicness?

Cheers.
I suppose I never had done that operation ...
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Re: VDAT for bounce

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You can get a command line tool...there's one used by the DVD rippers called BeSweet. It *can* do various transcoding and such, but can also do just basic Left.wav + Right.wav = Stereo.wav (in a stereo fashion).
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Re: VDAT for bounce

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cheers jksuperstar.

I assume using that would have the least effect on the files, thinking that doing it in soundforge like i described would have some sort of effect when being saved.. hmmmm i have no idea. :P
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Re: VDAT for bounce

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In Soundforge: Import Left-Import Right then Save a Interleaved Stereo. Its that Simple^^.
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:)
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