Scope 5

capacitor · Post by **capacitor** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:22 pm

Have Faith. The extended timeline for Scope 5/Xite-1 isn't even CLOSE to the delays for Duke Nukem Forever.

sherlock · Post by **sherlock** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:16 pm

Probably Sonic Core could turn it into an open source project to speed up the progress of development.

Or employ a second developer...

Post by **garyb** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:39 pm

open source would take even longer.

there aren't many who really know this kind of coding....

the BEST in the business(really) are working on it.

JIRI · Post by **JIRI** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:34 am

WTF !!!!!!

These bastards have no justification for their lack of respect to their customers ... i really like my "CREAMWARES" The 4 of them ... but this has gone too far , more than 1 year keeping up their blasphemy ...soon , soon , its all they say . My question is when ?
Theyre making the same mistakes Creamware did ..."lying to the customers" ( soon isnt one year and half )
I really dont care anymore if they know the meaning of , appointment , schedule , deadline , afterhours , overnight, etc...
I dont care also if you censor my post cause im really a lurker and i only made my account to express my current disappointment.
I dont care if you dont complain about the fact that soniccore is not taking this issue seriously , and that for me they have no more credibility whatsoever.
Who cares if their platform isnt ready to work with the USELESS windows Vista , just release it for OSX and XP and lets see what happens.
I am lucky to have a good bunch of DSP platforms (PT HD3 accel , SSL duende , 3x Uad and 2x Powercore MkII , 4 Creamwares 1 prof 1 proyect & 2 Pulsar ) And agree that Scope platform is really one of the most advanced solutons today but man i really want to try Scope 5 on OSX with logic ... and i want to add that im not a mac lover , as a matter of fact to prove it i can say that i use my protools on windows Xp cause it works better than on a mac.
So to finish this boring blabering , i only want to add that Scope platform has true potential of becoming the prefered Dsp solution today and bring down those protools f*ckers to their knees. But with this attitude from the directives of SIC i really doubt so , in fact its a good reason for a new bankrupcy. My only advice try to look at the Universal Audio guys theyre doing really well with their promos and their accesible plugin prices, nice friendly immediate and responive tech support. And yes my scope 4.5 with 4.0 keysfile works like a charm but it doesnt change the fact that SIC has no selfrespect nor respect to their customers , theyre not bearing in mind the actual market solutions & business strategies & PR to make a software upgrade really happen on a stated deadline beside the complexity of the dsp programming to do.

Conclusion : I still like better the sound of my " protools sound card " on any DAW than Creamware cards, not taking into account that the workflow using an integrated dsp/daw solution like protools can bing on the table .

PD: I hope that SIC can make me eat my words with that all new Scope platform 5

nightscope · Post by **nightscope** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:46 am

JIRI wrote:my scope 4.5 with 4.0 keysfile works like a charm

Excellent. The glass is half full.

ns

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:03 pm

JIRI wrote:WTF !!!!!!

*NOISE*

I understand your frustration. I have no idea why they choose/have to to keep quiet about things.

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:33 pm

Jiri, sorry but you are complaining the very day of Namm show and we all know that SC and John Bowen have a booth for Xite and solaris. The time has come

... and Xite seems to be the ONLY audio interface for laptop with so much power and plugins. Even the forthcoming uad expander will be a "mere" DSP rack without in-outs. I cannot understand such a strategy .. Everybody looking for a pro mobile laptop need exetrnal HDs, an audio interface and power. Powercore and UAD (i am talking about the new expander that should be launched in 2009) need firewire. Hummm, .. while you have to connect 2 important devices : HD(s) and audio interface. Xite gathers audio in-outs + DSP. For me, that's the best idea they had. Creamware spirit (remember the first elektra and pulsar1) is alive... And i hope Xite is now ready for the Namm show

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:51 pm

I could be all wrong, but as I recall things, all SC has said about v5 is, that it will be kind of a porting to Xite - and there will be some new devices, but if these will be included or payed extras ... I don't know.

Really, work on on your v4 or v4.5. Don't expect v5 to turn your work from enthusiastic amateur to pro or stuff like that. Gear does not do that. Dedication, loads of intense work - and likely some natural skill - does that.

Post by **garyb** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:03 pm

true enough.

besides, Scope is already good enough to get Grammy nominations and an Academy Award. any improvement in sound would be a great thing, but if the current sound isn't good enough, it's the user's fault.

tripstation · Post by **tripstation** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:33 am

I agree with the Vista probs.
Who uses it for audio anyway?
What I need is true multiprocessor (how hard can it be ?) support in scope 5.
So I can use it with my Dual Xeon XP setup!

Trying to get this thread going again.
The only way I could see to do it was to edit the original post.
So does Scope 5 work with Dual Xeon CPU's under XP ( Asus PC-DL Deluxe).
I remember getting the stuttering thing and then the system freezing.
Has this issue been addressed yet?
regards,
James

Mike Goodwin · Post by **Mike Goodwin** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:31 am

tripstation wrote:?
What I need is true multiprocessor (how hard can it be ?) support in scope 5.
So I can use it with my Dual Xeon XP setup!

regards,
James

Are you saying that scope 4.5 will not work with computers with more than one physical CPU's?

jdieks · Post by **jdieks** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:46 am

yeah, i was wondering what he means too... it runs just fine on my quadcore

the19thbear · Post by **the19thbear** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:01 pm

it doestn work too well with multiple cores in xtc mode..

siriusbliss · Post by **siriusbliss** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:51 pm

Here's a taste of Xite-1 at NAMM.

Video of Gary B giving an overview of the BOX THAT ACTUALLY EXISTS AND WORKS!

You can all stop your whining now

Video on Vimeo (and soon youtube).
http://www.vimeo.com/2877906

Greg

p.s. and if you'd read the NAMM thread, you'd be more up to date

Tau · Post by **Tau** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:08 pm

Thanks Greg and Gary, it's great to see it actually working. I wanna have a closer look (here in my place

) soon. Pretty nice to see the transparent GUI when you move things around, and everything seems to be running smoothly, at least on the graphics side.

And Gary, your hair doesn't look that scary

Thanks again, G+G!

T

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:11 am

thank you guys !!!!! The transparency of the devices, when moving, is a great idea

Jo

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:05 am

Tau wrote:
And Gary, your hair doesn't look that scary

You only saw 15% of it

Hair's no scare, Xite is

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:47 pm

GaryB, very cool!
full respect for the nice overview. well done

jimk · Post by **jimk** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:15 am

Been a long time user of SCOPE and Creamware (probably 10 years at least). And I love the concept and want to continue supporting this platform.

I enjoyed Gary B's video demo and this probably bought me a few more months before I need to abandon SCOPE.

If any of you have been use SCOPE for a long time, the best feature IMHO is the ability to WIRE all of your audio through a common interface. The second advantage is the software synths that are second to none of the VST models.

The effects and processing inside of Scope is SO-SO but I haven't updated any of the basic stuff since OPTI MASTER and a fancy reverb system (which I forget who make its).

To be honest, the VST plug in effects/processors I use sound much better and smoother than the SCOPE stuff. I don't use SYNTHs but the SYNTH emulations inside of SCOPE pretty much stand up to the best VST synth as far as sound quality.

Anyway, I have a need to upgrade to a 64 bit system for larger RAM needs for soft samplers and have been patch working my projects at the expense of frequent crashes due to RAM issues.

I don't necessarily want to move to PT (but I might) and have been looking seriously at a few UAD2 QUAD but haven't made a decision waiting for SONIC CORE to get their act together.

Hurry UP... I can't wait much longer.

Thanks,
Jim

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:58 am

I maxxed out my RAM too from Giga/Kontackt Romplers, and added the 3GB switch.
Helped alot but I recently maxxed that out, but thankfully my live needs don't include large Orchestral stuff.
I really want to practice Orchesrtal mock ups in my downtime and my only work around is load as much as I can and record those tracks, then reload and do more.
It's a real PITA for this kind of work and the libraries I find the most authentic and so damn resource hungry. I have to program them to load w/o the IR's, and then select other economical shortcits, etc. I would rather be recording instead of spending so much time trying to get my Core 2 Duo and RAM to accomodate these large Orchestral instruments.
At the end of the day 64bit will make things easier, but I can get by fine w/ 32bit until I have a need for such massive templates.
But I do want SC to add these once they get rolling.

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