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Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Nestor » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:25 am

I have never witnessed something so beautiful in terms of classic piano emulations... I am going this path right away. For me, due to its extremely artistic character this virtual piano does not even compares with Pianoteq, this is my humble opinion, don't get mad at me please, but I can't help, this is perfect. As a matter of taste this is THE NUMBER ONE EVER!

https://impactsoundworks.com/product/pe ... ert-grand/
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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Nestor » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:48 am

Guys, I am thrilled, its dynamics are the real deal! It feels like a real great piano, but it is not in the concert hall, it is in your own room!

Play it and find out for yourself, you will not believe me until you play it directly because it is unbelievable!

It is extremely versatile too, I think this piano could easily be the only one piano for everything you could posibly do with an acoustic, period.
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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by dawman » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:17 am

They make great sampled instruments.
I’ve got a few.
Congrats.

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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Mr Arkadin » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:26 pm

I'm after that Persian one, Koron I think it's called. Just waiting for a sale!

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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Nestor » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:58 am

dawman wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:17 am
They make great sampled instruments.
I’ve got a few.
Congrats.
Thanks Daw... :wink:

I have a large number of arrangements to build with classical piano. Almost all of the songs will have a piano speaking music upfront, so it must sound great. The rest of the instruments will be mellow additions: pads, strings and some other atmospheric soft instrument as a background to warm up the performance, but the piano and a singing voice will be the stars all the way.
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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Mr Arkadin » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:51 pm

Actually I just picked up their Resonance - Emotional Mallets Kontakt library for $20 over at audio plugin deals. 2.6GB of bowed, hit, scraped metal stuff for fifteen quid is a sore dick deal.

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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Nestor » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:46 am

Yes it is! Great.

And Pearl, for what it gives you, it is not expensive either.
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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by braincell » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:27 am

Mr Arkadin wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:51 pm
Actually I just picked up their Resonance - Emotional Mallets Kontakt library for $20 over at audio plugin deals. 2.6GB of bowed, hit, scraped metal stuff for fifteen quid is a sore dick deal.
Thanks for the tip! I went to the site and although the price is $20, when I applied the code, I was charged nothing!

By the way, in the past I noticed that when I bounced Battery samples and put them into Groove Agent, they sounded noticeably much better, this with no processing before or after. There's an export function in Kontakt which converts the samples into wav files. I will try this. My DAW isn't set up at the moment as I am in the process of moving. In any event, Groove Agent SE4 is way better in many ways for percussion samples than Kontakt is. I shy away from Kontakt because the quality just doesn't seem to be as good as in some of the other software I have. I think maybe Kontakt is designed to use less CPU power.

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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Mr Arkadin » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:42 am

braincell wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:27 am
I shy away from Kontakt because the quality just doesn't seem to be as good as in some of the other software I have. I think maybe Kontakt is designed to use less CPU power.
For drums i never use Kontakt. I don't know if it actually sounds 'weaker' or whether it's some placebo, but I prefer to use a dedicated drum VST Instrument like BFD3. I don't mind the more unusual percussive stuff coming from Kontakt, like the Wave Alchemy stuff and Sonic Couture's Konkrete, but for solid drums it's always BFD3 for me.

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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by braincell » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:56 am

Looks like I had rewards points I didn't know about on that site and I still have $39 left!
Mr Arkadin wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:42 am
braincell wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:27 am
I shy away from Kontakt because the quality just doesn't seem to be as good as in some of the other software I have. I think maybe Kontakt is designed to use less CPU power.
For drums i never use Kontakt. I don't know if it actually sounds 'weaker' or whether it's some placebo, but I prefer to use a dedicated drum VST Instrument like BFD3. I don't mind the more unusual percussive stuff coming from Kontakt, like the Wave Alchemy stuff and Sonic Couture's Konkrete, but for solid drums it's always BFD3 for me.

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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by dawman » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:41 am

Mr Arkadin wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:42 am
braincell wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:27 am
I shy away from Kontakt because the quality just doesn't seem to be as good as in some of the other software I have. I think maybe Kontakt is designed to use less CPU power.
For drums i never use Kontakt. I don't know if it actually sounds 'weaker' or whether it's some placebo, but I prefer to use a dedicated drum VST Instrument like BFD3. I don't mind the more unusual percussive stuff coming from Kontakt, like the Wave Alchemy stuff and Sonic Couture's Konkrete, but for solid drums it's always BFD3 for me.
Totally agree.
I bought several kits that sucked butts.
Scabbey Drums, Slate, etc.
Just so compressed you get little to work with.

UVI and Gigastudio beat PLAY or Kontakt.
They’re starting to get more developers so give them a whirl if you’re looking for sounds that aren’t ruined by over compression/expansion.

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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Nestor » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:43 pm

Mr Arkadin wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:42 am
braincell wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:27 am
I shy away from Kontakt because the quality just doesn't seem to be as good as in some of the other software I have. I think maybe Kontakt is designed to use less CPU power.
For drums i never use Kontakt. I don't know if it actually sounds 'weaker' or whether it's some placebo, but I prefer to use a dedicated drum VST Instrument like BFD3. I don't mind the more unusual percussive stuff coming from Kontakt, like the Wave Alchemy stuff and Sonic Couture's Konkrete, but for solid drums it's always BFD3 for me.
Exactly the same with me
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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Nestor » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:50 pm

If you want excellent drums at a law cost, there isn't anything better than XLN Addictive Drums 2:

https://www.xlnaudio.com/addictivedrums

I have been working with EZ Drummer forever, but this is going to be my next step up in drums efforts, they sound truly professional, they are as good as BDF to my ears, you don’t have many of the fine details of the BDF, particularly programming. Welll, I personally don’t need such level of programing detail, so XLN AD2 is juts the perfect step up for me. One day, I will be there!
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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by yayajohn » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:18 am

Some of the impact instruments require the full version of Kontakt. It's a shame because they really are affordable and great sounding but I can't justify purchasing Kontakt/Komplete. Already have too many vst's I don't use and if I start down that path then I'm probably looking at a computer upgrade too.

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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by kensuguro » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:00 pm

it's great you found the piano that's just right for your taste. I think with pianos there's an imprinting process that happens consciously/subconsciously, and a particular sound gets cooked into the brain. For me, I'm guessing it's the Kawai baby grand that I had at home. It's not particularly the best piano tone I've heard, but for a "regular piano" sound, I think that's what I revert to. But this C7 kind of has that down to earth feel without going over the top sanitized and digitally polished.

But I think it's very fortunate that this piano spoke to you. It's so rare to make an instant yet full connection with an instrument, digital or not. It DOES happen, and when it does it's like speaking the same language, and that instrument grew up in the same village. There's something cosmical and magical about meeting an instrument like that. (or a person)

For me PIanoteq wasn't that cosmic collision. It's become my go to piano from a utilitarian perspective, much less so for inspirational reasons. I can work with it, and it behaves mostly the way I think it should, but I don't feel a spiritual bond with it at all. I've tried, but somehow I don't get pulled in enough, and what I throw in to it doesn't "stick". It also seems to assert its independence, which is different from when you can dive head first into an instrument. It's different from when I got my toy bamboo flute that I used for the Finland production which was an immediate and electric connection. But since I do know what it feels like, I keep my eyes open and hope the lightning strikes again.
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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Mr Arkadin » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:09 pm

No matter how many libraries I try (haven't tried modelling a la Pianoteq yet) I always search for more. I am happy with many of the libraries, but they all have a different character.

At the moment I really like the purity of NI's Una Corda, and really want to get Spitfire's Felt Piano.

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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Nestor » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:27 pm

kensuguro wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:00 pm
it's great you found the piano that's just right for your taste. I think with pianos there's an imprinting process that happens consciously/subconsciously, and a particular sound gets cooked into the brain. For me, I'm guessing it's the Kawai baby grand that I had at home. It's not particularly the best piano tone I've heard, but for a "regular piano" sound, I think that's what I revert to. But this C7 kind of has that down to earth feel without going over the top sanitized and digitally polished.

But I think it's very fortunate that this piano spoke to you. It's so rare to make an instant yet full connection with an instrument, digital or not. It DOES happen, and when it does it's like speaking the same language, and that instrument grew up in the same village. There's something cosmical and magical about meeting an instrument like that. (or a person)

For me PIanoteq wasn't that cosmic collision. It's become my go to piano from a utilitarian perspective, much less so for inspirational reasons. I can work with it, and it behaves mostly the way I think it should, but I don't feel a spiritual bond with it at all. I've tried, but somehow I don't get pulled in enough, and what I throw in to it doesn't "stick". It also seems to assert its independence, which is different from when you can dive head first into an instrument. It's different from when I got my toy bamboo flute that I used for the Finland production which was an immediate and electric connection. But since I do know what it feels like, I keep my eyes open and hope the lightning strikes again.
Wow, scary... :lol: it feels like you have been watching me through the window playing the Pearl
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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by Nestor » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:11 pm

Hehehe, very nice, but you believe I am Jopo or that I have stolen Jope’s pullover. :D
I truly like my home I can tell… nice clock and a purple couch to have an enjoyable rest with a cup of tea warming my hands listening to my latest recording with the Pearl. Nice image! Thank you! :P
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Re: Piano: THIS IS IT!

Post by t_tangent » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:37 pm

LOL, sorry about that. Corrected now, and Jopo has his pullover back. :) I was a bit drowsy earlier and forgot to read who had posted the previous comment.

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